VARIOUS TESLA STOCK MARKET FRAUD CHARGES
Powerful Tesla Silicon Valley investor oligarchs have long been accused of using their vast political power to rig the stock market and fluff up the endlessly dire Tesla (TSLA) stock. Is it possible to "Rig The Stock Market"?:
Key Charges:
- Senior Administrative officials acquired stock in Tesla, and Tesla suppliers, prior to, and during, big federal Tesla government funding "wins"
- Tesla stock traders have been documented using "Flash Boys" technology
- White House officials have been documented being instrumental in Tesla's funding, instrumental in Fed decision actions and instrumental in Tesla investors meetings, some within the White House itself. All of these actions led to Tesla investor profits and public funds losses.
- When Tesla stock dives, Tesla investors "Pump the stock" from their own pension fund and public institution fund resources.
- Tesla hires armies of internet "Meat puppets" and "Blog shills", in extremely large numbers, to hype up the stock by posting exaggerated statements about the company value.
- The biggest internet "Meat Puppet" is Google, who owns part of Tesla. Google manually deletes and hides negative information about Tesla, and Elon Musk, and manually posts hype PR about Tesla to it's front page.
- Senators Boxer, Feinstein, and Reid are known to have had their family funds and trusts acquire Tesla-related core, and supplier, stock in advance of federal announcements. They all lobbied for Tesla and Solyndra. The FBI, GAO, U.S. Senate, and other bodies are investigating.
- All of the above are now documented facts on both public record and in agency files.
Is it possible to "Rig The Stock Market"?. Let's take a look:
Key Charges:
- Senior Administrative officials acquired stock in Tesla, and Tesla suppliers, prior to, and during, big federal Tesla government funding "wins"
- Tesla stock traders have been documented using "Flash Boys" technology
- White House officials have been documented being instrumental in Tesla's funding, instrumental in Fed decision actions and instrumental in Tesla investors meetings, some within the White House itself. All of these actions led to Tesla investor profits and public funds losses.
- When Tesla stock dives, Tesla investors "Pump the stock" from their own pension fund and public institution fund resources.
- Tesla hires armies of internet "Meat puppets" and "Blog shills", in extremely large numbers, to hype up the stock by posting exaggerated statements about the company value.
- The biggest internet "Meat Puppet" is Google, who owns part of Tesla. Google manually deletes and hides negative information about Tesla, and Elon Musk, and manually posts hype PR about Tesla to it's front page.
- Senators Boxer, Feinstein, and Reid are known to have had their family funds and trusts acquire Tesla-related core, and supplier, stock in advance of federal announcements. They all lobbied for Tesla and Solyndra. The FBI, GAO, U.S. Senate, and other bodies are investigating.
- All of the above are now documented facts on both public record and in agency files.
Is it possible to "Rig The Stock Market"?. Let's take a look:
Photo: Getty Images
John Crudele FOR THE NEW YORK POST
The stock market is rigged.
When I started making that claim years ago — and provided solid evidence — people scoffed. Some called it a conspiracy theory, tinfoil hats and that sort of stuff. Most people just ignored me.
But that’s not happening anymore. The dirty secret is out.
With stock prices rushing far ahead of economic reality over the last six or so years, more experts in the financial markets are coming to the same conclusion — even if they don’t fully understand how it’s being rigged or the consequences.
Ed Yardeni, a longtime Wall Street guru who isn’t one of the clowns of the bunch, said flat out last week that the market was being propped up. “These markets are all rigged, and I don’t say that critically. I just say that factually,” he asserted on CNBC.
Yardeni’s claim is the most basic one: that the Federal Reserve won’t do anything that will upset Wall Street and, in fact, is doing all it can to help the stock market.
But there are other recent claims that come closer to the bull’s-eye, even if the archers don’t quite see what they are hitting.
The Wall Street Journal carried an intriguing story on March 11 about how the Bank of Japan was “aggressively purchasing stock funds.” (The Journal is owned by News Corp., the parent of The Post.)
“By directly underpinning the market, [Bank of Japan] officials have tried to encourage private investors to follow suit and put more money in stocks in the hope of stimulating the economy and increasing inflation,” read the report with a Tokyo dateline.
That’s called rigging the market for a higher purpose, or hoping people who can afford to invest in stocks will make lots of money and spend it. The benefits, Japan’s central bank believes, will then trickle down to the rest of the economy.
The Journal provided lots of details that I won’t get into here. But the paper also presumed that all these central bank stock purchases were being done on the Tokyo market and that only the shares of Japanese companies were being rigged.
That’s not necessarily the case. The Bank of Japan — and other central bankers around the world — could easily be purchasing shares of American companies to help out the US stock market.
And Japan could even be doing it with the blessing of Washington, which is afraid any direct intervention in equities on its part would be discovered by nosy people like me.
Last fall, we learned that one American exchange has made intervention in — rigging — foreign governments easier and cheaper to accomplish. In October, it emerged that CME Group, the Chicago exchange that trades options and commodities, had an incentive program under which foreign central banks could buy stock market derivatives like the Standard & Poor’s futures contracts at a discount.
As I’ve reported many times, S&P futures contracts are the vehicle of choice for rigging the market. They are a cheap and very powerful way to cause an artificial buying frenzy.
After the market’s sizeable drop on Wednesday — the Dow alone lost 292.60 points — be on the lookout today for aggressive S&P futures buying today. It could start in Asia or Europe, but it almost always occurs.
Foreign central banks, of course, really don’t need a discount to buy S&P futures contracts. That’s like billionaires clipping cents-off coupons. But what the CME’s discount tells us is that the Bank of Japan and other central banks are probably already customers.
So the rigging of US stock markets by foreign entities has likely been going on for some time.
Has the US ever directly rigged the stock market? I’m sure it has. The sloppiest attempt seems to have occurred in 2008 during the financial crisis, when Washington was sure our whole financial system was toppling.
Phone logs that I received showed numerous calls between Treasury secretary Hank Paulson and Wall Street banks — Goldman Sachs, in particular — that seemed to coincide nicely with stock market rallies.
Unlike the Bank of Japan, Washington would have been coy about rigging the stock market and probably would have used proxies. The New York Federal Reserve Bank, for instance, would wink and nod at its favorite banks, and trades that turn the stock market upward would suddenly be made.
There’s another kind of market rigging that is also going on. This is being done by companies themselves.
Since corporate profits and revenues aren’t growing enough to justify current high stock prices, companies have been aggressively buying back massive quantities of their own shares.
By doing this, companies reduce the number of their shares owned by the public. This accounting trick boosts the calculation of profit-per-shares because the numerator of the equation (earnings) remains the same while the denominator (outstanding shares) is reduced.
Okay, so the markets are rigged. Basically everyone now agrees on that. But should we care?
America was built on capitalism and free and fair markets. Today’s markets aren’t fair. In fact, they are unfair because they are putting lots of money into the pockets of a small number of Americans.
The bigger problem is this: If stock prices are artificially inflated, nobody can tell what a company is really worth. And banks are going to be hesitant to lend money to companies with fuzzy valuations.
Filed under Federal Reserve , Goldman Sachs , Standard & Poor’s , Stock Market , Wall Street
John Crudele FOR THE NEW YORK POST
The stock market is rigged.
When I started making that claim years ago — and provided solid evidence — people scoffed. Some called it a conspiracy theory, tinfoil hats and that sort of stuff. Most people just ignored me.
But that’s not happening anymore. The dirty secret is out.
With stock prices rushing far ahead of economic reality over the last six or so years, more experts in the financial markets are coming to the same conclusion — even if they don’t fully understand how it’s being rigged or the consequences.
Ed Yardeni, a longtime Wall Street guru who isn’t one of the clowns of the bunch, said flat out last week that the market was being propped up. “These markets are all rigged, and I don’t say that critically. I just say that factually,” he asserted on CNBC.
Yardeni’s claim is the most basic one: that the Federal Reserve won’t do anything that will upset Wall Street and, in fact, is doing all it can to help the stock market.
But there are other recent claims that come closer to the bull’s-eye, even if the archers don’t quite see what they are hitting.
The Wall Street Journal carried an intriguing story on March 11 about how the Bank of Japan was “aggressively purchasing stock funds.” (The Journal is owned by News Corp., the parent of The Post.)
“By directly underpinning the market, [Bank of Japan] officials have tried to encourage private investors to follow suit and put more money in stocks in the hope of stimulating the economy and increasing inflation,” read the report with a Tokyo dateline.
That’s called rigging the market for a higher purpose, or hoping people who can afford to invest in stocks will make lots of money and spend it. The benefits, Japan’s central bank believes, will then trickle down to the rest of the economy.
The Journal provided lots of details that I won’t get into here. But the paper also presumed that all these central bank stock purchases were being done on the Tokyo market and that only the shares of Japanese companies were being rigged.
That’s not necessarily the case. The Bank of Japan — and other central bankers around the world — could easily be purchasing shares of American companies to help out the US stock market.
And Japan could even be doing it with the blessing of Washington, which is afraid any direct intervention in equities on its part would be discovered by nosy people like me.
Last fall, we learned that one American exchange has made intervention in — rigging — foreign governments easier and cheaper to accomplish. In October, it emerged that CME Group, the Chicago exchange that trades options and commodities, had an incentive program under which foreign central banks could buy stock market derivatives like the Standard & Poor’s futures contracts at a discount.
As I’ve reported many times, S&P futures contracts are the vehicle of choice for rigging the market. They are a cheap and very powerful way to cause an artificial buying frenzy.
After the market’s sizeable drop on Wednesday — the Dow alone lost 292.60 points — be on the lookout today for aggressive S&P futures buying today. It could start in Asia or Europe, but it almost always occurs.
Foreign central banks, of course, really don’t need a discount to buy S&P futures contracts. That’s like billionaires clipping cents-off coupons. But what the CME’s discount tells us is that the Bank of Japan and other central banks are probably already customers.
So the rigging of US stock markets by foreign entities has likely been going on for some time.
Has the US ever directly rigged the stock market? I’m sure it has. The sloppiest attempt seems to have occurred in 2008 during the financial crisis, when Washington was sure our whole financial system was toppling.
Phone logs that I received showed numerous calls between Treasury secretary Hank Paulson and Wall Street banks — Goldman Sachs, in particular — that seemed to coincide nicely with stock market rallies.
Unlike the Bank of Japan, Washington would have been coy about rigging the stock market and probably would have used proxies. The New York Federal Reserve Bank, for instance, would wink and nod at its favorite banks, and trades that turn the stock market upward would suddenly be made.
There’s another kind of market rigging that is also going on. This is being done by companies themselves.
Since corporate profits and revenues aren’t growing enough to justify current high stock prices, companies have been aggressively buying back massive quantities of their own shares.
By doing this, companies reduce the number of their shares owned by the public. This accounting trick boosts the calculation of profit-per-shares because the numerator of the equation (earnings) remains the same while the denominator (outstanding shares) is reduced.
Okay, so the markets are rigged. Basically everyone now agrees on that. But should we care?
America was built on capitalism and free and fair markets. Today’s markets aren’t fair. In fact, they are unfair because they are putting lots of money into the pockets of a small number of Americans.
The bigger problem is this: If stock prices are artificially inflated, nobody can tell what a company is really worth. And banks are going to be hesitant to lend money to companies with fuzzy valuations.
Filed under Federal Reserve , Goldman Sachs , Standard & Poor’s , Stock Market , Wall Street
SILICON VALLEY VC'S BUILT THE "FLASH BOYS" TECHNOLOGY. NOW THEY ARE USING IT TO RIG THE STOCK MARKET FOR THEIR TESLA PORTFOLIO:
"PUMP AND DUMP"
The U.S. Treasury issued an "unjust enrichment" determination against Tesla's, physically, next door neighbor. They said that Solyndra's investors had manipulated the massive public funds losses in a way that they, and Goldman Sachs, made a PROFIT.
Tesla investors have also now been documented engaged in "pump-and-dump":
OFFICIAL SENATE INVESTIGATION EXPOSES THE WHOLE OPERATION AS AN ORGANIZED CRIME KICK-BACK SCHEME:
ONE OF THE MANY HIRED SHILL FRONTS HYPING TESLA STOCK ON THE WEB:
Articles:
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Did Silicon Valley Venture Capital groups run a cartel to try to control the energy and new auto industry?
The venture capitalists are from the same few schools, are males with similar appearances and only fund companies with senior staff from the same schools and with similar appearances and fraternity connections. They put their offices on the same road: Sandhill Road. If you, or your team did not go to Stanford, it is not likely you will get funded by them.
They meet at Bucks restaurant in Woodside (now recorded by Iphone carrying entrepreneurs and posted on YouTube) and in conference rooms on Sandhill road and decide which companies to blockade and which companies to let through. Isn’t that a monopoly? Isn’t that against the law? These people should be prosecuted under the Sherman, FTC and RICO Acts!
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So A Blogger Walks Into A Bar…
Michael Arrington
Tuesday, September 21st, 2010
Comments
Yesterday I was tipped off about a “secret meeting” between a group of “Super Angels” being held at Bin 38, a
restaurant and bar in San Francisco. “Do not come, you will not be welcome,” I was told.
So I did what any self respecting blogger would do – I drove over to Bin 38, parked my car and walked in.
in the back of the restaurant in a private room was a long oval table. Sitting around the table, Godfather style,
were ten or so of the highest profile angel investors in Silicon Valley. These investors, known as “super angels”
because they have mostly moved on to launch small venture funds of their own, are all friends of mine. I knew each
person in the room very, very well.
I certainly didn’t think anything was amiss and I expected a friendly hello and an invitation to sit down for a
drink or two before being shooed off while they talked about whatever they thought should be kept off record. But
instead it went something like this:
Me: Hey!
Person who was talking: oh, oh no.
Me: Hi. I heard you guys were here and I wanted to stop by and say hi.
Them: dead silence.
Me: so….
Them: Deafening silence.
Me: This is usually where you guys say “sit down, have a drink.”
Them: not one sound
Me: This is awkward. I guess I’ll be leaving now.
I’ve never seen a more guilty looking group of people. But that alone isn’t that big of a deal. Lively
conversations often die quickly when I arrive, and I’ve learned not to take it personally. But I did sniff around
a little afterwards, and have spoken to three people who were at that meeting. And that’s where things got
interesting.
This group of investors, which together account for nearly 100% of early stage startup deals in Silicon Valley,
have been meeting regularly to compare notes. Early on it was mostly to complain about a variety of things. But
the conversation has evolved to the point where these super angels are actually colluding (and I don’t use that
word lightly) to solve a number of problems, say multiple sources who are part of the group and were at the
dinner. According to these souces, the ongoing agenda includes:
Complaints about Y Combinator’s growing power, and how to counteract competitiveness in Y Combinator deals
Complaints about rising deal valuations and they can act as a group to reduce those valuations
How the group can act together to keep traditional venture capitalists out of deals entirely
How the group can act together to keep out new angel investors invading the market and driving up valuations.
More mundane things, like agreeing as a group not to accept convertible notes in deals (an entrepreneur-
friendly type of deal).
One source has also said that there is a wiki of some sort that the group has that explicitly talks about how
the group should act as one to keep deal valuations down.
At least two people attending were extremely uneasy about the meetings, and have said that they are only there to
gather information, not participate.
So what’s wrong with this?
Collusion and price fixing, that’s what. It is absolutely unlawful for competitors to act together to keep other
competitors out of the market, or to discuss ways to keep prices under control. And that appears to be exactly
what this group is doing.
This isn’t minor league stuff. We’re talking about federal crimes and civil prosecutions if in fact that’s what
they’re doing. I had a quick call with an attorney this morning, and he confirmed that these types of meetings are
exactly what these laws were designed to prevent.
I’m not going to say who was at the meeting since at least a couple of the attendees are saying they were
extremely uncomfortable with the direction the conversation was going. But like I said, it included just about
every major angel investor in Silicon Valley.
On a side note, this is a difficult post to write, because I call nearly every person in that room a friend. But
these actions are so completely inappropriate it has to be called out.
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Not sure what your sources are, but courts have ruled that parallel action can be sufficient evidence of
conspiracy under Section 2 of the Sherman Act. See e.g. American Tobacco v. United States (1946), available here:
http://supreme.vlex.com/vid/american-tobacco-v-united-states…
The Supreme Court wrote:
“[The conspiracy's] existence was established, not through the presentation of a formal written agreement, but
through the evidence of widespread and effective conduct on the part of petitioners in relation to their existing
or potential competitors.”
If I remember correctly from my anti-trust class last year, the American Tobacco precedent still stands. You don’t
need written or audio evidence to get a conviction; anti-competitive behavior in the marketplace is sufficient.
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dandelany 774 days ago | link
Interesting questions… IANAL, but I imagine they’re colluding to bring down the valuations of startups,
therefore essentially fixing the “price” of their money, to be paid for in startup equity.
If I, and others, say your company is worth a million dollars, then I’m fixing the price of my $500,000 at 50% of
your company.
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brendonjason 774 days ago | link
IANAL(E), but this scenario would seem to be more of a concern if startups in Silicon valley got together over
dinner to deny deals that didn’t offer similar terms and prices in dollars for securities of all startups
represented at said dinner simultaneously.
As for angels fixing the “price of their money” I don’t understand how antitrust applies to this anymore than it
would to, say, how LIBOR is determined.
If antitrust applies to colluding on the dollar amount to be paid OUT instead of price asked for money coming in,
then if I start a boycott of something (colluding to pay $0) am I guilty of violating antitrust laws?
As I understand it (not much, I admit), antitrust applies to goods and services, not cost of money. If antitrust
applied to cost of money, the Federal Reserve would not exist since it’s basically an extension of the member
banks that make up its institutional board of directors (not board of governers). All they do is get together and
fix the price of money to be printed and lent out to member banks.
Also, this whole “I stumbled in on a secret meeting of powerful men conspiring to start a revolution” thing is
somewhat suspect; throughout history this gambit, if it actually happened that way, is usually either desperate
grab at 15 minutes of fame (which seems unlikely given Michael’s popularity), an attempt to gain instant
credibility on some esoteric but useful new subject (“I was the only outsider privvy to what happened there, so
you can trust me”) or, unfortunately, a cynical move feigned by the men in the room to inspire hasty and possibly
faulty reactionary stances by the supposed target of their “envy”.
I could be wrong though. I just can’t believe guys who are careful enough to get to such a position in life would
all simultaneously get so careless. On the same day. In the same place.
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polynomial 773 days ago | link
> if I start a boycott of something (colluding to pay $0)
http://j.mp/dividedby0
(Unless of course you actually get them to give it to you for nothing, which is generally not the point of a
boycott…)
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jeromec 774 days ago | link
Think of the stock market. That’s certainly a marketplace. It’s made up of investors seeking to earn a return on
their money by investing in companies. Think of the illegalities involved in collusion to manipulate the stock
market. Now think of Silicon Valley as a less formal/regulated stock market…
With Groupon nobody is asked to not buy or otherwise participate in the market unless done through Groupon.
Instead, it’s like a grocery store co-op; members pool their money to get more buying power. This doesn’t mean
they agree to refrain from shopping elsewhere, as that would be collusion/conspiring to produce a market effect.
IANAL
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brendonjason 774 days ago | link
If I have an investing club and we come to define an investment approach, say, what stocks we like and what we
think they should be valued at, are we colluding to price fix the market? If I think a company is over priced and
I am in charge of executing trades for my investing club, whose members unanimously agreed not to buy the stock in
question until it fell down say, $20 more in price – are we colluding? Yes. Colluding to price fix? No. We’re
simply colluding not to participate in the buy side. That may or may not lead to sellers slowly changing their
asking price. But that’s a two-way street. I don’t see the illegality according to anti-trust. Now if every major
instututional house/hedge/mutual/pension fund that owned that stock got together and colluded to refuse to SELL us
any stock until we agreed to their higher price, that I understand is illegal. They are fixing the price
literally. But I don’t see how us refusing to participate in a transaction on the buy side is illegal whether we
have 5 members or 5 million.
Saying that the angels are colluding to price fix buys into Michael’s assertion that “together, the men in that
room account for nearly 100% of all angel deals”. That means that their “deals” are the commodity in question, and
they are free to do as they wish. If it’s their money, then it’s hard to make the claim that their money is the
market. There’s certainly more money in the world than theirs.
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blueben 774 days ago | link
“Look, you and I both know your company is worth $50 million. But I only want to pay $10 million, and I’ve already
worked out a deal with my competitors so they won’t bid any more than that either. We own the market for
investment, so you can take it or your company can die for lack of funding.”
You don’t see a problem with this kind of artificial market manipulation? This is no longer a market; it short
circuits true capitalism and only serves to siphon gains from the seller (in this case, the company’s founders) to
the buyer, who will turn around and effectively try to resell (or otherwise exit) the company for profit.
Everyone seems to be convinced that price fixing only applies to sellers. That’s wrong. It firmly applies to both
selling and buying. It’s fundamentally about market manipulation; taking steps to undermine the economy of the
system for direct personal gain. That kind of behavior destroys wealth and erodes confidence in the marketplace.
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aufreak3 774 days ago | link
I’m ignorant enough to have the same question in my mind.
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SkyMarshal 774 days ago | link
Grellas, what’s your take on this Quora comment? In a nutshell, it’s not illegal for collusion on the buy side,
only the sell side:
Tarun Nimmagadda, Mutual Mobile Co-Founder, COO
http://www.quora.com/Who-are-the-Super-Angels-that-Michael-A…
“The article was a fun read, but it is a false claim that this is illegal. Collusion, price fixing, and dividing
markets is only illegal on the selling side. Think about how people and groups are able to band together for
purchasing power and special treatment when buying goods/services. Its not illegal.
Worth noting thought that if this price manipulation happened in relation to a company with over a 100 investors,
SEC regulations would begin to apply and this behavior would be illegal”
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grellas 774 days ago | link
That comment was made out of ignorance. Antitrust laws are by no means limited to sellers only.
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SkyMarshal 774 days ago | link
Interesting, thanks.
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Alex3917 774 days ago | link
“Collusion, price fixing, and dividing markets is only illegal on the selling side.”
IANAL, but didn’t Standard Oil got broken up largely for being a monopsony? In fact the first two complaints from
the DoJ were about sell-side issues:
“Rebates, preferences, and other discriminatory practices in favor of the combination by railroad companies;
restraint and monopolization by control of pipe lines, and unfair practices against competing pipe lines;
contracts with competitors in restraint of trade; unfair methods of competition, such as local price cutting at
the points where necessary to suppress competition; [and] espionage of the business of competitors, the operation
of bogus independent companies, and payment of rebates on oil, with the like intent.”
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invisible 774 days ago | link
I know this was pointed at grellas, but I think this is a misunderstanding when we look at price fixing and
collusion. The illegality of collusion is secretly forming agreements to benefit competitors at the expense of
other parties. Words like defraud can succinctly help you understand whether it is illegal or not when looking at
these agreements.
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dctoedt 774 days ago | link
The Wikipedia summary of Section 1 of the Sherman Act is a decent read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Antitrust_Act#Violation…
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jon_dahl 774 days ago | link
Grellas, would there have to be evidence that the participants were acting anti-competitively, or is being in the
room enough? Arrington says that a few of the folks there were uncomfortable with what was going on, and were
maybe there just to see what was happening.
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grellas 774 days ago | link
Assuming the meeting had an illegal purpose (which is a major assumption at this point), one might infer that
anyone present was complicit in that illegal purpose. In my view, that by itself would not normally be enough to
subject someone to liability, especially if the participant disclaims affiliation with the group and thereafter
does not act in concert with it.
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guelo 774 days ago | link
Does it matter if the participants have monopoly power over the market? I have a hard time believing Arrington’s
claim that “ten or so” angels control “nearly 100% of early stage startup deals in Silicon Valley”. If they
control lets say only 50% of this market would it still be illegal collusion?
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grellas 774 days ago | link
It is not required that the participants have monopoly power for them to transgress the law on this point. I agree
with you that the “nearly 100% of the early stage deals in Silicon Valley” statement is wildly overstated but this
should not affect the fundamental legal analysis here.
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messel 774 days ago | link
The only observation I’ve read is that several angels in a bar didn’t want to talk to Mike Arrington about why
they were meeting. New fund, maybe. Shared problems about Silicon Valley deal flow and seed price inflation,
likely.
Collusion is a bit of a jump, and suggests far more market power than a roomful of angels can have over state,
regional, national, or global startup macro pricing trends.
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tc 774 days ago | link
Congratulations to PG & company. When I first met Paul years ago, he was musing about spam filters and the finer
points of a well-designed lisp. Now he apparently has the top 10 angels in Silicon Valley running scared of him.
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jeromec 774 days ago | link
The interesting thing is unlike that group of Angels apparently in the bar PG’s interests are less about helping
himself, and more about helping entrepreneurs. From an essay by PG entitled “Why YC”:
The real reason we started Y Combinator is one probably only a hacker would understand. We did it because it seems
such a great hack. There are thousands of smart people who could start companies and don’t, and with a relatively
small amount of force applied at just the right place, we can spring on the world a stream of new startups that
might otherwise not have existed.
In a way this is virtuous, because I think startups are a good thing. But really what motivates us is the
completely amoral desire that would motivate any hacker who looked at some complex device and realized that with a
tiny tweak he could make it run more efficiently. In this case, the device is the world’s economy, which
fortunately happens to be open source.
http://paulgraham.com/whyyc.html
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wensing 774 days ago | link
YC’s greatest hack is identifying founder material based on technical rather than social proof (the YC app asks
for an example of the coolest thing you’ve ever built, not an example of a cool person that thinks you are cool).
This hack is possible thanks to a judges panel full of real nerds. How many super angels or VC’s can claim to have
the same?
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gruseom 774 days ago | link
I agree that YC are able to identify great hackers and great founders more easily because they are these things
themselves. What’s little recognized is how big a difference this is between YC and the other YC-like funds.
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wensing 774 days ago | link
Yes. I had a colleague apply for TechStars and her takeaway from the interview was “he was really focused on where
the business was.” Doesn’t seem in line with what I’ve heard about YC’s primary interest (it’s not the business
model).
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gruseom 774 days ago | link
It seems kind of obvious that most successful startups don’t succeed via the business model they started with. And
that great founders can change business models more easily than great business models can change founders. These
things are so obvious that they’re cliches, in fact, but that doesn’t mean that they’re common practice.
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qq66 774 days ago | link
I don’t think anybody’s stated interests should be taken as an indicator of their true interests. In this case,
with PG, I do believe that his stated intentions are sincere. But there is often so little correlation between
actual and stated intentions, that I don’t take any such statement at face value.
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jeromec 774 days ago | link
I don’t think anybody’s stated interests should be taken as an indicator of their true interests.
I agree. (actually I’d replace “taken as an indicator” with “taken as an absolute indicator”)
In this case, with PG, I do believe that his stated intentions are sincere.
I agree.
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mhendrick 774 days ago | link
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it likely that the angels involved also make up a strong percentage of the
people who invest on Demo Day in post-YC companies? How can it be a “PG vs Angels” situation when the parties
involved are likely some of YC’s portfolio companies biggest “supporters”?
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brc 774 days ago | link
One of the outputs from the YC process is better educated founders who have a lot more guidance in negotiating
through a deal.
Even if the deal flow was exactly the same, just having the founders suffering less from information assymetry
would be a stone in the shoe of the Angels.
Think of it this way : if YC did all the same things, but also turned founders into being Angel patsies at
dealtime, do you think they would be upset about it? I would guess it’s the information about how to negotiate,
and what a good deal looks like is the problem. I’m sure they love the concept of demo-day to go deal shopping,
but would prefer it if the products didn’t talk back.
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MediaSquirrel 774 days ago | link
YC is the seller, angels at Demo Day are the buyers. Just cuz you work with someone closely doesn’t mean you won’t
or can’t try to screw them.
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redrobot5050 774 days ago | link
Yeah. I mean, look at the JooJoo/CrunchPad Debacle. According the Mike A., that’s exactly what happened.
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mhendrick 774 days ago | link
Agreed. It’s possible they got a bit overconfident in their respective positions because of the easy access to so
many well-vetted companies.
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jeromec 774 days ago | link
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it likely that the angels involved also make up a strong percentage of the
people who invest on Demo Day in post-YC companies?
Yes, I believe so.
How can it be a “PG vs Angels” situation when the parties involved are likely some of YC’s portfolio companies
biggest “supporters”?
That question might be better put to those Angels in the bar…
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mhendrick 774 days ago | link
I’m not defending the angels involved by any means; I actually think it’s a great thing that this has been exposed
if it is indeed what’s been going on. The easy access to YC companies may in fact be what emboldened them to act
in this manner in the first place. Once this all plays out, I think it’s safe to assume that at least a few of the
angels in question are going to have to answer for their actions. Should be interesting to hear what they have to
say.
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brendonjason 774 days ago | link
Yes. They are running scared of the growing threat of the Ylluminati. But since they have 100% of all the deals,
they also seem to co-invest(?!?).
These anxious (yet all-powerful) group of angels and this unstoppable new seed-stage prominence. They form a
closed loop. A loop closed off to venture capitalists and angels not at that meeting … which is basically
everybody.
Except Michael. He got away with his life intact and lived to warn us all.
Actually, I don’t know what’s scarier – the supposed collusion or the subtle dread that Y Combinator is supposed
to evoke in my mind as I ponder the possibility of this event being true.
If it is true – maybe we should be side with these poor angels and help them before it’s too late.
To paraphrase Woodrow Wilson, “Since I entered (angel investing), I have chiefly had (angel investor’s) views
confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the (Valley), in the Field of (IT) and (Venture Capital), are
afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so
interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in
condemnation of it.”
That something … is Y Combinator.
Um … no. The dark side doesn’t suit you, Y Combinator.
Please stop.
I’m sorry. Maybe I’ve had too many beers tonight. But this is the kind of scenario that only comes out of the mind
of a silicon valley PR firm.
(please don’t downvote me too much … I’d like to get above 100 karma points just once for a change! Noooo!)
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limist 774 days ago | link
I upvoted you just for the historical reference.
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mixmax 774 days ago | link
So a blogger gets a tip from a source, knows the people involved, acts on it and smells a rat. He sticks around
and talks to a few people he knows, makes a few calls and gets a breaking story.
Sounds to me like bloggers are the new journalists and that traditional media is in big big trouble.
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sachinag 774 days ago | link
Felix Salmon does this, and he’s a blogger working for Reuters. Dan Primack does this, and he’s a blogger working
for Fortune.
It’s not about old/new media – it’s about hustle.
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Alex3917 774 days ago | link
Read Manufacturing Consent or any of the books that have been written about the MSM since then. It’s very much
about old media verse new media.
If this were the NYT they’d probably tell Arrington he couldn’t run the story because it’d interfere with either
their ad sales or else their access to sources. For example, just look at how/why they covered up their knowledge
of the warrantless wiretapping until after Bush got reelected.
Whereas with Arrington there’s no one to tell him he can’t do it because it’s his blog, and because he’s not part
of some mega corporation the chances of a story like this killing the revenue of some part of his empire are
infinitely lower.
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metamemetics 774 days ago | link
>Sounds to me like bloggers are the new journalists
Journalism used to be considered the fourth branch of government, keeping the other branches and large
institutions in check. Blogs are the startups of the journalism world.
As America moves from bureaucratic capitalism with large institutions to entrepreneurial capitalism with many
small firms & independent players, the responsibility to call out unethical behavior is transferred from news
companies to the individual.
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vaksel 774 days ago | link
a breaking story would name names…him not naming names just means he can use this as a hammer to get better
terms for Techcrunch(either I get exclusive to every deal you guys do…or your names will be posted)
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metamemetics 774 days ago | link
I would argue it’s more ethical to discourage and prevent crime from ever happening in the first place. Seeking
satisfaction from “catching the bad guy” (naming names) is to setup a market dependent on the need for new crimes.
Arrington did the right thing. It’s not about whether he caught a criminal, it’s about whether he prevented
someone from becoming one.
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eavc 773 days ago | link
Someone (maybe everyone) in that group knew what they were doing to be wrong.
I doubt that they will abandon their ethical choice; they’ll find smarter ways to do what they’d intended all
along.
One thing that might work is if someone in the group has damning correspondence, everyone will panic and promise
to “never talk about that summer again,” genuinely preventing future problems.
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jon_dahl 774 days ago | link
Maybe. This approach shows some integrity too, though. Not everything has to turn into a scandal (at least if
inappropriate behavior stops quickly). Call me soft on crime.
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mattmaroon 774 days ago | link
Him not naming names means that people will continue to give him information in the future. He’d be shooting
himself in the foot by naming a source that requested anonymity.
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SkyMarshal 774 days ago | link
There’s an interesting conundrum there too. He can’t name names without either omitting (and hence identifying)
his source/s, or including (and inditing) them.
Either way he loses that/those source/s for future stories. He did the only thing he could do, besides staying
silent. If it happened to be the right thing as well, so much the better.
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drusenko 774 days ago | link
unlikely. business in the valley is not done by extortion.
more likely is that he doesn’t want anyone to get in trouble, he’s just putting them on notice.
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jnoller 774 days ago | link
I do hope he’s wrong, or that this a mistake of some sort. The rise of Angel investors has seen a lot of ideas and
entrepreneurs get needed money when they might not have under the traditional VC model.
Something like this, if true, will cause the government to step in, and probably regulate and change things for
the worse for a great many people. It won’t just hurt these few super angels. It will take everyone with it.
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j_baker 774 days ago | link
To be fair, this is Michael Arrington. He’s not above sensationalism to get a few extra clicks.
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mattmaroon 774 days ago | link
This goes well beyond sensationalism. I’m inclined to believe him for three reasons:
1. Mike’s not known for boldly lying. He might publish rumors that Facebook is building a phone too liberally, but
I’ve not heard of him saying “I saw x happen” and it wasn’t true. Assuming the account of what he himself saw was
accurate it’s hard to imagine collusion wouldn’t be the purpose.
2. This sounds like something that would happen. VCs do this crap all the time, why not angels?
3. Publishing this might be bad for him, and if it were untrue, it would definitely be really bad for him.
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cletus 774 days ago | link
I believe it too. You succinctly enumerate the reasons. The biggest for me was that (he claims) he saw it happen.
That puts his personal reputation at stake, which I think will have to meet a far higher standard than the rumour
publishing “go tos” of “an anonymous source”.
The FB phone was (imho) classic Arrington (the bad side). Posted on the weekend (in the hopes that FB PR would be
slow to respond and debunk it), quoting anonymous sources and no substance at all. Basically, link bait. That sort
of story does him (or rather his credibility) no favours.
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swombat 774 days ago | link
Add to that that there is no convincing reasons why this group of angels would manufacture this story to lead him
on. Unlike with some other TC stories which turned out to be manufactured to discredit TC, in this one, the
sources themselves would risk a lot by leaking this – true or false.
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Alex3917 774 days ago | link
In Arrington’s defense his claims are laid out clearly without any weasel words. Either this is happening or it
isn’t. So while I’m pretty meh about TC as a whole, I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt on this one.
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chc 774 days ago | link
He didn’t name a single name. If he really believed this was so certain, he could have. Unless he’s trying to make
them do something, the only reason to keep names out of it is because he thinks this might be libel.
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swombat 774 days ago | link
He doesn’t need to expose himself to lawsuits by naming names. The names are pretty obvious to anyone in the
field.
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chc 774 days ago | link
Yes, but that’s the thing — you can’t get sued for “obvious names.” Even if he’s completely making this up, if one
of the obvious suspects sues him, he can just say, “Oh, no, I didn’t mean him.”
The comment I was replying to said, “his claims are laid out clearly without any weasel words. Either this is
happening or it isn’t.” I disagree with that — Arrington is not laying it all out here as a black-and-white truth.
He’s consciously omitting facts in a way that happens to shield him from repercussions if this is false. As a
traditional dead-tree newspaper guy, I’m very familiar with the ways reporters fudge their claims to avoid being
responsible if it turns out to be crap. That’s what this sounds like to me.
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eavc 773 days ago | link
If he calls them felons and they wind up being acquitted for whatever reason, however technical or stupid, then he
would be liable for libel.
He clearly wanted to avoid using weasel words. The only way to do that without being reckless is to not refer
directly to the objects of the post.
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techiferous 774 days ago | link
“the only reason”
He did mention that they were his friends. Perhaps he wants to nip the illegal activity in the bud with as little
collateral damage as possible.
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jnoller 774 days ago | link
I’m not going to disagree with that. As I said, I hope this is a mistake.
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origoterra 774 days ago | link
Arrington is smart, a lawyer himself, and already know he is headed straight to the witness stand. Thanks for
blowing this whistle Mike. That’s the TC we like.
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seldo 774 days ago | link
I don’t know if witnessing a table full of people go silent when he turns up proves anything, and the rest is all
info that would put his source on the stand, not him.
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danielnicollet 774 days ago | link
If you read the full post, take in account that he was present and saw who was there, and assume he has not chosen
to reveal everything about the sources through TC at this time (that’s highly understandable – protecting his
sources and only disclosing what he feels is verifiable), there is definitely a lot here and absolutely enough for
a climb to the witness stand!
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tomjen3 774 days ago | link
I am not so sure – he said that several of the persons there were very uncomfortable with the deal, so being there
alone would not be enough.
The rest is heresay, which is admissible in no non-kangaroo court that I know of.
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MediaSquirrel 774 days ago | link
I believe the saying that applies is: “Power corrupts…”
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cool-RR 774 days ago | link
I wouldn’t take anything he says seriously. [Edit: If it wasn't clear, I meant Arrington, not Jesse]
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lsternlicht 774 days ago | link
I think your statement was clear. However, I find it hard to believe Arrington would put some of his best sources
at risk if his claims were completely unfounded.
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onan_barbarian 774 days ago | link
Strange how any post that could be construed as being negative about Arrington gets down-modded by about 5 points,
regular as clockwork.
That being said, I think he’s on the money with this one.
This can only be good for YC overall. The suspicion that YC alternatives are all colluding against your startup is
likely to make YC seem more attractive still, to the class of startup that would be wavering between YC and a
rival.
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stanleydrew 774 days ago | link
Posts that consist of nothing more than subjective statements tend to get a lot of downvotes, not just the ones
about Arrington.
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ori_b 774 days ago | link
The reason it’s always exactly 4 points of downvote is because hn caps the visible downvotes at 4, not because
there are 4 shills.
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ericd 774 days ago | link
Super angels aren’t really an alternative to YC… they normally step in at the stage a company is at where YC
normally ends.
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gruseom 774 days ago | link
I find it fascinating how the very qualities that lead people to call Michael Arrington an asshole are
dramatically in evidence here. It takes a staggering immunity to social mores to walk in on a meeting of rich and
powerful friends, friends who are connected to his own business in many ways (read: friends with leverage) and
behave the way MA says he did, let alone go home and write that article. Very few people could do it. I’m not sure
I could, to put it mildly. I particularly doubt if many (any) of Arrington’s competitors ever would. It may take a
character disorder to be able to act this way.
In an age when journalists grade themselves by which power-brokers deign to have lunch with them (anybody see
David Brooks prattling about this on Charlie Rose the other night? lunch and dinner, he said) it’s impressive to
see anyone act like this. Especially if what he’s saying is true and this really is a matter of right and wrong.
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mrtron 774 days ago | link
I have always felt MA had a certain…brashness, abrasiveness, assholish tone, whatever you want to call it…
about him. You could feel it in his articles.
I now feel it is not only helpful but entirely necessary for him to develop that quality in his career path.
Kudos for pushing the boundaries Mr. Arrington. The evidence speaks for itself – you don’t see this type of
journalism in any industry anymore.
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jexe 774 days ago | link
Well, at least one investor seems to have accidentally included himself in the mess (from TC’s comments)
http://twitter.com/speechu/status/25083299594
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jakevoytko 774 days ago | link
This link is now a 404. Thankfully Google has the text of the tweet!
speechu: Bin 38 is like heaven right now, chock-full of angels.
Not explicitly incriminating, but it sounds pretty bad
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dzlobin 774 days ago | link
Strangely, it’s still on the feed. http://twitter.com/speechu
But the status link is deleted
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borism 774 days ago | link
real-time wonders of nosql?
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nostromo 774 days ago | link
I just put “forming a cartel” on my list of things not to tweet.
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mattmaroon 774 days ago | link
Unless you’re in Mexico. Then Tweeting is probably a good idea.
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mrduncan 774 days ago | link
The original tweet was removed in the past few minutes (others have dug it up again). His latest tweet doesn’t
seem to be taking Arrington too seriously:
Thanks Mike for techcrunching me for no reason. Note to self: hold next secret meeting in underground bunker to
get the feds off my trail.
Sundeep Peechu@speechu
Thanks Mike for techcrunching me for no reason. Note to self: hold next secret meeting in underground bunker to get the feds off my trail.
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dannyr 774 days ago | link
The tweet has been erased but somebody did an old-school retweet of it.
“Timestamp is 8p yesterday. RT @speechu: Bin 38 is like heaven right now, chock-full of angels. #superevil
#evidence cc @arrington”
Matt Mireles@mattmireles
Timestamp is 8p yesterday. RT @speechu: Bin 38 is like heaven right now, chock-full of angels. #superevil #evidence cc @arrington
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hanskuder 774 days ago | link
Tweet’s now deleted. That’s not suspicious at all.
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joshu 774 days ago | link
i’ve never heard of this guy before, and he isn’t a coinvestor on any deal i’ve been on…
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bl4k 774 days ago | link
he works with Aydin at Felicis
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ojbyrne 774 days ago | link
If I had some energy (and cared) I’d be on foursquare and gowalla right now
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pbiggar 774 days ago | link
It’s 404 for me. What did it say? (screenshot preferred)
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dannyr 774 days ago | link
Cached version:
http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=http://twitter.com/speechu/…
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tptacek 774 days ago | link
In what sense do antitrust laws apply to investors? Why is it unlawful for investors to band together to get
better terms for themselves?
Wouldn’t it be perfectly legal for these people to sit around a table an agree to merge and start a fund? If
that’s the case, how could it be unlawful for them to work on a joint venture? Just because I don’t like the JV
doesn’t make it unlawful!
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danilocampos 774 days ago | link
IANAL, but as I understand it…
Any time individuals or businesses get together to collaborate on a strategy that restrains trade or supply, thus
artificially skewing prices, this runs afoul of antitrust law.
Collusion between angels to keep valuations low and prevent newcomers from participating sounds like a textbook
case. In this case, they’re artificially inflating their cost of capital by reducing the overall valuations of the
businesses they fund. They artificially reduce the supply of capital by conspiring to keep out new participants.
Similarly, the Department of Justice is looking into Valley hiring, since companies have a gentlemen’s agreement
not to poach from one another:
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2010/09/17/technology-special…
In this case, the argument would go that the companies are artificially constraining the supply of paying work for
qualified applicants, while reducing the competitive landscape that would drive up their salaries.
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nostromo 774 days ago | link
It sounds like price fixing, even though they are buying and not selling. Check out Wikipedia for a good write-up:
“Price fixing is an agreement between participants on the same side in a market to buy or sell a product, service,
or commodity only at a fixed price, or maintain the market conditions such that the price is maintained at a given
level by controlling supply and demand. The group of market makers involved in price fixing is sometimes referred
to as a cartel.
The intent of price fixing may be to push the price of a product as high as possible, leading to profits for all
sellers, but it may also have the goal to fix, peg, discount, or stabilize prices. The defining characteristic of
price fixing is any agreement regarding price, whether expressed or implied.
…
Colluding on price amongst competitors is viewed as a per se violation of the Sherman Act regardless of the market
impact.”
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tptacek 774 days ago | link
Would it still be price fixing if all of them got up from the table and announced the formation of Super Angel
Capital Partners? I can’t see how; there’s tons of VC firms already. If that’s not unlawful, how is a joint
venture among them unlawful?
Are we just stuck on the fact that they’re “angel investors”? The law doesn’t recognize any such sector of the
venture capital business.
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j_baker 774 days ago | link
“Would it still be price fixing if all of them got up from the table and announced the formation of Super Angel
Capital Partners?”
Yes. That would effectively make SACP a cartel. Price fixing is price fixing if it was done by a group of entities
or one entity.
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InclinedPlane 774 days ago | link
If they create a single super angel corporation then they could run afoul of anti-monopoly laws.
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tptacek 774 days ago | link
What? No they don’t. There’s no such thing as a “monopoly of angel investors”. There are as many angel investors
as there are people with extra money to invest. In a lot of cases already, groups of powerful people with extra
money to invest have already formed very famous companies to do exactly what we’re talking about!
Shouldn’t the DoJ be going after Kleiner and Sequoia first?
Don’t hundreds of doctors and dentists already do stuff like this?
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enneff 774 days ago | link
Hah, this made me laugh. As if they owe anybody anything! They’re the ones taking the risks with their own money;
if they want to be better informed through information sharing, more power to them.
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j_baker 774 days ago | link
“As if they owe anybody anything! They’re the ones taking the risks with their own money;”
Right. And I’m sure they’re all doing it out of the kindness of their hearts. They’re definitely not intending to
make money off of the deal.
Regardless, Arrington accuses them of discussing:
* How the group can act together to keep traditional venture capitalists out of deals entirely
* How the group can act together to keep out new angel investors invading the market and driving up valuations.
This is definitely sounds anti-competitive to me (assuming it’s true of course).
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prostoalex 774 days ago | link
My buddy and I in college colluded to maintain market conditions on Lamborghini prices. As far as I can say, 300
million other Americans are participating in this. Our agreement was specifically regarding price (and lack of 0%
financing).
</sarcasm>
I think in buyer’s market it only makes sense when the supply of buyers is artificially limited. Not only it
doesn’t look like there’s any shortage of capital, the conversation in question specifically discussed excluding
new angel investors, furthering the point.
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ctkrohn 774 days ago | link
If the FTC determines that the joint venture would form a monopoly, they could in fact block it on antitrust
grounds. The FTC blocks mergers all the time.
Explicit cooperation in restraint of trade is always illegal, though.
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icey 774 days ago | link
According to Wikipedia [1], there were over 250,000 angel investors active in 2007. If 10 of those investors were
to get together to form a “super-group”, I’m not sure it would match up with the definition of a monopoly.
I don’t know anything about the collusion arguments though.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_investor
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ctkrohn 774 days ago | link
I agree. Not saying they’re a monopoly. The merger-blocking issue is the only reason I can think of for a joint
venture being illegal.
The difference is that explicit collusion is ALWAYS illegal. Otherwise innocuous activities that may have an
anticompetitive effect (e.g. forming a joint venture) are sometimes legal, depending on what the FTC thinks.
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jon_dahl 774 days ago | link
The real question would be their investment market share, right? There might be 500 companies building operating
systems, but a Microsoft/Apple merger would probably be a monopoly concern.
That said, while their market share is certainly larger than 10/250,000, it probably doesn’t even approach 10%. So
you’re probably right.
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jessriedel 774 days ago | link
True, but you need to consider possible sub-markets. They might have much less than 10% of angel funding
nationwide, but 60% of tech angel funding in the bay area. Or something like that. It all depends on how the
regulators draw boundaries around markets.
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dschobel 774 days ago | link
Why would VC firms meeting and agreeing to change terms for their clients in lock-step not be collusion whereas if
the brick and mortar banks did, it would be? (and was: http://redtape.msnbc.com/2008/04/did-banks-collu.html)
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j_baker 774 days ago | link
It turns out that banks are exempt from antitrust laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_antitrust_law#Exe…
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dschobel 774 days ago | link
You’re referring to the Edge Act [1][2] and that only applies to US banks’ foreign operations (their subsidiaries,
to be specific).
It is still very much illegal for them to collude against US customers.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edge_Act
[2] http://www.answers.com/topic/edge-act-corporation
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pvg 774 days ago | link
I have no idea whether this specific arrangement is legal or falls under laws regulating price fixing but it is
fundamentally different from a JV – there is transparency in the case of a JV so someone looking for financing
knows they are dealing with the same entity. If it was the same thing as a JV, parties doing the collusion
wouldn’t bother to do it in secret.
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InclinedPlane 774 days ago | link
Buying stock is also just investing. So is providing a loan. That doesn’t mean those activities aren’t subject to
laws and regulations.
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navyrain 774 days ago | link
I cannot speak to the letter of the law, but I’d venture to say the alleged misbehavior violates at least the
_spirit_ of the law, since these angels would be considered competitors outside of that room.
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jnoller 774 days ago | link
I’d like to know the laws too, this could be construed as collusion, conspiracy and probably a few other things.
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tptacek 774 days ago | link
How? What market power are they exploiting? There’s no conceivable monopsony for “shares of all startups”.
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jnoller 774 days ago | link
They are a group of people supposedly conspiring to generate the worst possible terms for the people they are
providing money to, while trying to force out or marginalize competition.
IANAL though – even if not illegal, it’s still pretty stinky, and a big part of me hopes it’s not illegal. If it’s
not illegal, I hope they’re outed and shamed if this is true. If it is illegal, it give the government reason to
step in and screw everything up.
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tptacek 774 days ago | link
Or, this is a group of people collaborating to generate the best possible outcome for their own business. Every
joint venture can be framed in anticompetitive terms. But in this case, what possible undue market influence can
they have? The market will find other people to take these deals.
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jnoller 774 days ago | link
This is a group of people, comprising the top angel investors in a given area, investing lots of money, into a lot
of companies, supposedly discussing – in private – how to “divide the market” and “set prices” and
“exclude/marginalize competition”. Angel investors, despite being individuals, still have regulations and laws to
follow.
Frankly, I think the feds would jump at the chance to have an excuse to jump in and more tightly regulate/tax/etc
the entire system, including angel investors.
You could very well be right; admittedly, I’m not the smartest tool in the shed when it comes to understanding FTC
and government investment regulations, as well as the legal status of angel investors.
Heck, I really hope this is all wrong, because the last thing I want is the feds meddling in this industry even
more. I make my living on startups; the last thing I want is the federal government to make it wither and die.
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j_baker 774 days ago | link
“Every joint venture can be framed in anticompetitive terms.”
Semantically yes. But is every joint deal bad for the market?
“The market will find other people to take these deals.”
Don’t be naive. Anticompetitive practices are specifically meant to prevent the market from functioning normally.
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dschobel 774 days ago | link
That’s an unrealistically high standard and I can’t think of any recent case which would meet it. Why didn’t the
market find a solution to Microsoft in the 90′s or Intel in 2000′s and, more importantly, why did the Feds feel
the need to intervene?
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tptacek 774 days ago | link
Microsoft owned the entire personal computing platform and was using it to put new companies in marginally related
markets out of business.
Are you suggesting that 10 angel investors have control over all the money? Is one of them Lex Luthor?
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blueben 774 days ago | link
Because bay area technical angel investing isn’t just about writing cheques. It’s about managing and guiding those
startups, helping them find the resources they need. It’s about leveraging your connections throughout the
industry to help them grow sales, build manufacturing, hire talent, or any of a hundred other things. This is why
startups go back to these handful of investors over and over again. Founders aren’t stupid. They know these
investors wield serious power in the tech world, and they want that power to be on their side.
If you think the only requirement to being an angel investor is having a big bank account, you haven’t been paying
attention.
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dschobel 774 days ago | link
I’m not suggesting it, Arrington flat out said it. He was there and knows the VC players better than anyone.
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notahacker 774 days ago | link
If (i)most angel investors are significantly less likely to make investments in early stage tech startups at a
given price and/or (ii)due to connections these investors provide a significant non-monetary value-add to the
startups they invest in then it’s conceivable they might wield a significant amount of market power.
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inerte 774 days ago | link
A joint venture (or a legal entity aka as a company) operates under very different rules than parties working
together, probably without a contract.
I don’t know how the antitrust laws apply, not even if what they are doing collude with any law at all, despite
preventing healthy competition, but your questions come from the wrong premises.
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tptacek 774 days ago | link
As we just saw with TechCrunch v FusionGarage, the paper contract has little to do with whether something is or
isn’t a joint venture.
Broaden the word “antitrust” to “laws against all contracts in restraint of trade”, and re-ask the question to
yourself. These people are investors. Investors are allowed to work together, aren’t they?
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tptacek 774 days ago | link
Before I turn into “the guy on the thread arguing that the Evil Angels are just peachy”, banding together for the
sole purpose of pushing back YC and making life harder for founder is a total dick move, and I’m happy Arrington
is shaming them for it.
But it is a much more ambitious claim to say that they’re breaking federal laws by doing it.
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Federal funds flow to clean-energy firms with Obama administration ties
By Carol D. Leonnig and Joe Stephens, Washington Post
Sanjay Wagle was a venture capitalist and Barack Obama fundraiser in 2008, rallying support through a group he headed known as Clean Tech for Obama.
Shortly after Obama’s election, he left his California firm to join the Energy Department, just as the administration embarked on a massive program to stimulate the economy with federal investments in clean-technology firms.
Following an enduring Washington tradition, Wagle shifted from the private sector, where his firm hoped to profit from federal investments, to an insider’s seat in the administration’s $80 billion clean-energy investment program.
He was one of several players in venture capital, which was providing financial backing to start-up clean-tech companies, who moved into the Energy Department at a time when the agency was seeking outside expertise in the field. At the same time, their industry had a huge stake in decisions about which companies would receive government loans, grants and support.
During the next three years, the department provided $2.4 billion in public funding to clean-energy companies in which Wagle’s former firm, Vantage Point Venture Partners, had invested, a Washington Post analysis found. Overall, the Post found that $3.9 billion in federal grants and financing flowed to 21 companies backed by firms with connections to five Obama administration staffers and advisers.
Obama’s program to invest federal funds in start-up companies — and the failure of some of those companies — is becoming a rallying cry for opponents in the presidential race. Mitt Romney has promised to focus on Obama’s “record” as a “venture capitalist.” And in ads and speeches, conservative groups and the Republican candidates are zeroing in on the administration’s decision to extend $535 million to the now-shuttered solar firm Solyndra and billions of dollars more to clean-tech start-ups backed by the president’s political allies.
White House officials stress that staffers and advisers with venture capital ties did not make funding decisions related to these companies. But e-mails released in a congressional probe of Obama’s clean-tech program show that staff and advisers with links to venture firms informally advocated for some of those companies.
David Gold, a venture capitalist and critic of Obama’s investments in clean tech, said that even if staffers had been removed from the final decision-making, they had the kind of inside access to exert subtle influence.
“To believe those quiet conversations don’t happen in the hallways — about a project being in a certain congressman’s district or being associated with a significant presidential donor, is naive,” said Gold, who once worked at the Office of Management and Budget. “When you’re putting this kind of pressure on an organization to make decisions on very big dollars, there’s increased likelihood that political connections will influence things.”
Energy Department spokesman Damien LaVera said the companies won awards based on merit, not political connections. He said the staffers and advisory board members reviewed by the Post had no role in funding decisions, nor did they have any personal financial stake in the companies. One of those administration advisers had first been appointed to his position by the Bush administration, LaVera said.
“As is evident from the 10-month long congressional investigation into Solyndra, Energy Department loans and grants are decided on the merits,” White House spokesman Eric Schultz said. “What’s more, these are all professionals with expertise in clean-energy science, finance or both — but none of them play a decisional role in DOE awards and none of them are in positions of regulating the industry.”
Venture capitalists arrive
During the 2008 campaign, the venture capital industry lined up behind Obama as he vowed to spur clean-technology development. Obama raised more than twice the venture capital contributions of his opponent, Republican candidate John McCain.
Known for making billions of dollars in the 1990s on Internet startups, venture firms in 2006 were rapidly switching to invest in clean tech. Legendary venture partner John Doerr, a leading early investor in Google and Amazon, that year called the clean-energy sector the next great profit center, “the mother of all markets.”
With the 2008 economic crisis, new private investment in fledgling clean-tech companies withered. But passage of the $787 billion stimulus package offered new opportunities to launch and grow those firms, with $80 billion set aside for clean energy and energy-efficiency efforts.
Suddenly flush with cash, the Energy Department was under orders to ramp up quickly and get money out to promising companies. The administration tapped industry players to take on key Energy Department roles, both as agency staffers and outside advisers on agency boards.
Wagle, then 38, took a job as a stimulus adviser in the agency’s recovery act office. Officials say his role did not involve making funding decisions for companies tied to Vantage Point.
Private investors cheered the administration for hiring industry colleagues. In a 2009 article, venture firm leader Jim Matheson said Wagle, along with another Washington-bound venture capitalist, David Danielson, would help ensure commercial successes from “the steady flow of dollars coming out of D.C.”
Wagle’s former employer had invested in several companies that received federal money: Brightsource, which won a $1.6 billion federal loan for a solar-generating plant; Tesla Motors, which won a $465 million loan to build electric cars; and biofuels firm Mascoma, which in 2011 received $80 million for a Michigan ethanol plant.
Wagle recently returned to the California venture capital industry to work as an investor and clean-tech adviser. Reached at his home, he declined to comment. Vantage Point Venture Partners, renamed Vantage Point Capital Partners, did not respond to requests for comment.
Danielson, formerly of General Catalyst, joined an Energy Department office whose mission was to fund breakthrough energy technologies. Officials say he had no role in arranging $105 million in funding for three General Catalyst portfolio firms.
David Sandalow, a former Clinton administration official and Brookings Institution fellow, had been paid $239,000 for consulting work for a venture capital firm, Good Energies, in 2008 before joining the Energy Department as assistant secretary for policy and international affairs, his disclosure form shows.
A Good Energies-backed firm, SolarReserve, won a $737 million agency loan. Officials say Sandalow played no role in arranging it and LaVera, speaking on behalf of Sandalow, said the assistant secretary had no financial interest in Good Energies or SolarReserve.
The Energy Department came under criticism from Republicans earlier this year when agency e-mails raised questions about a possible conflict of interest involving Steven J. Spinner, a former department loan adviser who disclosed that his wife worked for Wilson Sonsini, a Silicon Valley law firm that handled funding applications for several clean-tech companies.
Wilson Sonsini’s clean-tech clients reaped $2.75 billion in Department of Energy grants and financing, the Post analysis found.
One of the firm’s clients was Solyndra. Republicans have accused the Obama administration of favoring the risky company because its leading investor was tied to a major Obama donor.
Wilson Sonsini had its own connection to the White House: the firm’s chief executive, John Roos, was a top bundler for Obama’s 2008 campaign.
Before joining the administration, Spinner, a venture investor and start-up adviser, also helped raise $500,000 for Obama as a member of his national campaign finance committee. He has pledged to raise a half-million dollars or more for Obama’s reelection effort.
Once inside the agency, Spinner agreed not to discuss loan matters involving Wilson Sonsini clients. But e-mails show he urged career officials to resolve delays in the Solyndra loan, and also defended the financial prospects of Solyndra to a White House deputy before its federal loan was approved.
Spinner left the Energy Department in the fall of 2010. He did not respond to requests for comment. The department said Spinner was not involved in the company’s application review or loan approval.
A Wilson Sonsini spokesman said the firm does not believe its employment of Spinner’s wife influenced Energy Department decisions.
I nvestors as advisers
Thousands of agency and White House e-mails released as part of the Solyndra investigation show that venture capitalists who held advisory roles with the Energy Department were given access to Obama’s top advisers.
Steve Westly, an Obama fundraising bundler for both his 2008 and 2012 campaigns, is a founder of the venture firm Westly Group and served part time on Energy Secretary Steven Chu’s advisory board.
The e-mails show that Westly communicated with senior White House officials, including Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett, voicing concerns about the president’s planned appearance at Solyndra.
Westly’s firm also fared well in the agency’s distribution of loans and grants. Its portfolio companies received $600 million in funding. LaVera said Westly had no role in the funding decisions.
David Prend also surfaces in the e-mails as a venture capital investor who had White House access.
His firm, Rockport Capital Partners in Boston, was among the investors in Solyndra, with a 7.5 percent stake. The e-mails show him asking a White House aide to “help get the word out” about Solyndra and asking for help on another Rockport portfolio company. They show he and a group of venture capital investors met with new White House climate czar Carol Browner before Solyndra’s loan was tenatively approved, and the White House confirmed that the subject of the company came up briefly.
Prend had worked closely with the Energy Department since the Bush administration, when he was first appointed to an advisory panel for the National Renewable Energy Laboratory. He continued to advise the Obama administration, while also chairing a panel that helps advise the department on solar technologies.
The agency provided $550 million to several firms in which Rockport had invested at the time. The department gave an additional $118 million grant to an electric-car battery company, Ener1, that was partnered with Rockport portfolio car company Think. (Rockport soon after invested in Ener1.) Ener1 filed for bankruptcy protection last month.
LaVera and Chad Kolton, a Rockport spokesman, said that Prend’s advisory role was separate from stimulus programs and had no bearing on agency decisions about companies backed by Rockport.
Research editor Alice Crites contributed to this story.
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POTOMAC WATCH
May 24, 2012, 7:24 p.m. ET
Vulture Capitalism? Try Obama’s Version
A profit-driven economy is preferable to one run by political favoritism.
President Obama is no fan of Mitt Romney-style “vulture” capitalism. So what’s his
alternative?
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All those Republicans grousing about the president’s attacks on private equity might
instead be seizing on this beautiful point of contrast. Mr. Obama, after all, is no mere
mortal president. Even as he’s been busy with the day job, he’s found time to moonlight
as CEO-in-Chief of half the nation’s industry. Detroit, the energy sector, health care—he’s
all over these guys like a cheap spreadsheet.
Like Mr. Romney, Mr. Obama has presided over bankruptcies, layoffs, lost pensions,
run-ups in debt. Yet unlike Mr. Romney, Mr. Obama’s C-suite required billions in taxpayer
dollars and subsidies, as well as mandates, regulations, union payoffs and moral hazard.
Don’t like “vulture” capitalism? Check out the form the president’s had on offer these past
three years: “crony” capitalism.
The case study is the solar-panel maker Solyndra, which was part of a green-energy
sector that even by 2009 was flailing. The president took one look at the industry’s utter
lack of both profits and sellable products, and yelled “that’s my baby!” The stimulus bill
shipped tens of billions of dollars to the Energy Department to pour into green companies
via grants and loans. It promised five million jobs.
The Energy Department’s nuclear physicists were admittedly a bit flummoxed by the
whole P&L thing, but they got their venture-capitalism groove on and in 2009 handed
Solyndra a $535 million loan guarantee. Even prior to disbursement, government
accountants were warning that Solyndra was a lemon, but the White House didn’t worry.
After all, the IRS had only recently and conveniently tripled the tax credit (to 30%) for
buyers of Solyndra products, which the government figured would help grease their
start-up’s skids.
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Items for auction at Solyndra headquarters in
Fremont, Calif.
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Unfortunately, the physicist-CFOs
overlooked that whole “global energy
market” factor—easy mistake! Foreign
competitors were already piling into
Solyndra’s niche. Unable to compete, the
firm went bankrupt last year. And, oh, the
carnage! It was kind of like . . . GST Steel!
Only worse. Solyndra laid off 1,100
employees. It provided no severance, not
even back pay due for vacation credits.
But a bankruptcy judge would later
approve $370,000 in bonuses for 20
employees. Mr. Obama railed against the high-dollar
Silicon Valley investors who lined up in front of government to “suck” the remaining “life”
out of the bankrupt firm, even as employees were left to . . . Oh, wait. He said no such
thing. He was probably too busy doing damage control on his other governmentsubsidized
energy
bankruptcies,
from
Beacon
to
Ener1.
Or
running
down
the
latest
report
of
a
government-funded,
instantaneously
combusting
electric
car.
(Karma,
anyone?
Now
at
the
low,
low
price
of
$103,000.
Fire
extinguisher
included.)
Speaking of cars, Detroit is the business venture Mr. Obama’s team has been most
flogging as a success. True, General Motors and Chrysler are still turning their lights on,
though they’d have arguably been doing the same had they been left to go through
normal, orderly bankruptcies like those that helped the steel and airline industries
restructure to become more competitive.
To get to the same place, Mr. Obama’s crony capitalism handed $82 billion in taxpayer
dollars to the two firms. That bailout money went to make sure the unions that helped
drive GM to bankruptcy (and helped elect Mr. Obama) did not have to give up pay or
pension benefits for current workers. They were instead rewarded with a share of the new
firm. The UAW at GM meanwhile used the government-run bankruptcy to bar some 2,500
nonunion workers who had been laid off from transferring to other plants. How truly
vulture-like.
Contract law was shredded, as unions were given preference over other creditors, such
as pension funds for retired teachers and police officers. Congressmen used political
sway to keep open their weak auto dealerships, forcing layoffs at stronger ones (vulture .
. . vulture . . . vulture). Political masters obliged the industry to pour resources into
unpopular green cars. The political masters were obliged to offer $10,000 tax credits to
convince Americans to buy them. (They still won’t.) And the message to every big
industry? Go ahead, run your business into the ground. The Capitalist-in-Chief has your
back (especially if you are unionized).
So, take your pick. Mr. Obama’s knock on free enterprise is that it is driven by “profit,” and
that this experience makes Mr. Romney too heartless to be president. The alternative is
an Obama capitalism that is driven by political favoritism, government subsidies,
mandates, and billions in taxpayer underwriting—and that really is a path to bankruptcies
and layoffs. If the president wants to put all 3,545 green stimulus jobs he’s created up
against Bain’s record, he should feel free.
Mr. Romney could make the comparison himself. Ronald Reagan ran against Jimmy
Carter’s own industrial policy, and to great success. Viewed in isolation, “vulture”
capitalism has some PR downsides. Viewed against the alternative, it’s a flat-out winner.
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Political Payback: Green Corruption –– Part One
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Alarmingly, our environment has been hijacked by uber-rich individuals, crooked politicians, and an assortment of left-wing extremists that are fueled by greed and power attached to a radical agenda to bring about “global governance,” “redistribute the wealth,” and put the progressive movement –– big government, social justice and the death of capitalism –– on the fast track. Under the guise of “saving the planet,” these “players,” who are all interconnected in a variety of ways, are transforming our climate into something more sinister –– a scam of epic proportions.
Due to its magnitude and the potential dire consequences to our economy, our freedoms, and the voices of the honorable environmentalists –– this “Climate Scam” will be confronted in three parts.
Green Corruption, Part One
TROXLER AND BROWN PREDICTIONS OF GREEN CORRUPTION CONFIRMED
This year, Lee Troxler and Floyd Brown in their newly released hit book, Killing Wealth, Freeing Wealth How to Save America’s Economy and Your Own, chapter ten –– The Biggest Financial Bubble in US History, is where the authors’ predicted that the veteran Silicon Valley venture-capital firm Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers (KPCB) –– multi-millionaire Al Gore and billionaire John Doerr are both partners –– would get government contracts from the Obama administration unfairly.
In developing this story, which took months of research, backed up with extensive resources, we learned through an anonymous source that there are multiple federal investigations from different agencies and senators underway against the Department of Energy (DOE), in particular, the Loan Guarantee Program (LGP) and possibly others. Our source, who is close to the some of the ongoing investigations –– “guarantees there was corruption and bad ethics involved” and that at this time “a number of the investigations are getting stonewalled.” Our findings, along with this recent inside information, confirms Troxler and Browns’ predictions –– corruption on the “green front.” As we learn more, we will share the details.
At this time we do know that the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) has been in the process of reviewing –– in response to Congress’ mandate –– the DOE’s execution of the Loan Guarantee Program (LGP), which was established as part of the Energy Policy Act of 2005 and set up for innovative energy projects. About two weeks ago (July 12, 2010), the GAO released their findings and recommendations, noting that the “LGP scope has expanded both in the types of projects it can support and in the amount of loan guarantee authority available. DOE currently has loan guarantee authority estimated at about $77 billion and is seeking additional authority.”
At issue, the DOE’s lack of “comprehensive performance goals,” particularly in relation to the DOE’s “broad policy goal of helping to mitigate climate change and create jobs.” The GAO concludes, “Without comprehensive performance goals, DOE lacks the foundation to assess the program’s progress and, more specifically, to determine whether the projects selected for loan guarantees help achieve the desired results.”
Predictably, the GAO also found that the “DOE’s implementation of the LGP has treated applicants inconsistently, favoring some and disadvantaging others, as well as the fact that the “DOE lacks systematic mechanisms for LGP applicants to administratively appeal its decisions or to provide feedback to DOE on its process for issuing loan guarantees.”
OBAMA’S GREEN STIMULUS
In February 2009 Congress passed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA), the $862 billion stimulus package, for which $86 billion was earmarked for “green,” of which the Apollo Alliance –– a left-wing organization who exerts a powerful influence on the views and policies of the Obama administration –– was also involved in drafting. More on Apollo later, but Kleiner Perkins are like ants at a picnic; they’re everywhere that’s green, including on the Apollo board, where they have placed one of their partners, Ellen Pao. Furthermore, Obama was a candidate that both Gore and Doerr had strenuously campaigned for, including financial donations, and early on, Doerr had his hand in shaping ARRA, “urging” Obama’s transition team and leaders in Congress “to use the new economic stimulus package to modernize the electric grid and offer new incentives to help clean energy startups get off the ground.” Doerr also sits on Obama’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board (PERAB), who President Obama appointed as one of the “chosen” back in January 2009.
In following the ARRA, meant to stimulate the economy and create jobs, it is clear that the Obama administration is circuitously funneling government contracts to their favored companies –– “stimulating” the “green” pockets of Kleiner Perkins. This screams corruption and it’s time to call in a special prosecutor!
FOLLOW THE “GREEN” MONEY: KPCB GREENTECH PORTFOLIO
Since last summer when the Department of Energy (DOE) starting handing out the $86 billion “green stimulus” money, Gore and Doerr’s “green companies” have been cashing in big time –– billions of taxpayer dollars! Keep in mind, this doesn’t account for funds not yet allocated, or hidden contracts, nor the mass amount of money KPCB and others in the Climate Scam will generate if the U.S. climate legislation becomes law –– “Obama Climate,” more specifically cap-and-trade, which will be covered in more detail later.
So far over fifty percent of the companies listed on the Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers Greentech Portfolio, of which KPCB partners are positioned on the board of many, have –– directly and indirectly –– received money from the “Obama Green Stimulus” package as well as through other government programs approved by the Obama administration.
AL GORE’S FISKER AUTOMOTIVE $529 MILLION DOE LOAN IGNITES RED FLAGS
One of the most blatant government favoritism, catching headlines in the Wall Street Journal back in September 2009 –– Gore-Backed Car Firm Gets Large U.S. Loan –– was the $529 million dollar government loan guarantee (which was cinched in May 2010) that Fisker Automotive received to build its high-end, hybrid sports coupe, Fisker Karma –– to be manufactured in Finland and sold for $89,000. Fisker Automotive was a 2008 investment for Kleiner Perkins and it was “confirmed” that Gore has already purchased his “Karma.”
In June 2009 the DOE announced three other large government loans that included $5.9 billion to Ford Motor Company, $1.6 billion to Nissan Motors, and $465 million to Tesla Motors. Although the four loans came out of the DOE’s $25-billion Advanced Technologies Vehicle Manufacturing (ATVM) Loan Program, it was approved by the Obama administration and it did ignite some red flags.
As reported by the Wall Street Journal, “the awards to Fisker and Tesla prompted criticism from groups that question why vehicles aimed at the wealthiest customers are getting loans subsidized by taxpayers” and “concern from companies that had their bids for loans rejected,” Included in the reaction was Leslie Paige, a spokeswoman for Citizens Against Government Waste, “This is not for average Americans.” “It’s status symbol thing,” Ms. Paige added. More gripping is the fact that this “favoritism” didn’t sit well with some of the firms that were turned down for loans from the DOE –– stating “they did not get much feedback from the department about their applications” and “were unable to get a full explanation as to why their loan request was turned down.”
THE VINOD KHOLSA CONNCECTION
The CEO of EcoMotors John Colettie, whose $20 million ATVM loan from the DOE was denied, didn’t have an “issue” with the winners. Probably because EcoMotors’ lead investor is Vinod Khosla, an affiliated partner of Kleiner Perkins, whose firm Khosla Ventures has also invested in some of the same companies as Kleiner Perkins, which have received government funding including Obama Green Stimulus cash. Those companies include; AltaRock Energy Inc., $25 million grant from the stimulus; Amyris Biotechnologies, $25 million grant from the stimulus; and Mascoma Corporation has received state and federal grants from the DOE since 2006, totaling over $170 million and as recent as 2008, received another $49.5 million in funding from the DOE and the state of Michigan.
SILVER SPRING NETWORKS SCORES OVER $700 MILLION IN SMART-GRID GREEN STIMULUS FUNDS –– RIGGING THE BIDDING PROCESS?
One of the most contentious of Obama Green Stimulus money awards comes out of the ashes of the $4 billion smart-grid grants, with some of the nation’s largest providers of electricity meters “crying foul” over the smart-grid standards in the stimulus bill, according to a report by USA TODAY in February 2009. Additionally, they said that the economic stimulus bill “could put them out of business and wreak havoc in the new market for smart-grid technology by favoring certain computer network standards.”
Itron, Landis+Gyr, Elster and Aclara even wrote a letter to U.S. Senators to voice their concerns regarding the “protocols and standards” that were placed into the House version of the legislation for all smart-grid projects, which states that “utilities receiving funding must use Internet-based or other open protocols and standards if available and appropriate.” Ed Gray, vice president of regulatory affairs for smart-meter provider Elster, said “the bill gives a leg up to Silver Spring at the expense of other providers.”
Interestingly, in March 2009, a month after the stimulus bill had already passed, Jeff St. John from GreenTechMedia.com, quoted a statement made by Stuart Bush, an alternative energy analyst for RBC Capital Markets, “both Trilliant and Silver Spring (both smart-grid communications companies) could benefit from the way the stimulus plan was structured to require open standards.” Bush also added, “Clearly the West Coast VC guys had a lot of lobby pull getting that in there.”
Clearly the “West Coast VC guys” –– Kleiner Perkins (Gore and Doerr), have more than “lobby pull.” In fact, Silver Spring Networks, as revealed in Troxler and Browns book, is one of Kleiner Perkins shining “green” companies –– their 2008, $75-million investment has scored over $700 million! Since August of 2009 when the DOE started dishing out the $4-billion from the Smart Grid Investment Grant Program (part of the stimulus plan) –– awarded to selected utility companies for particular smart-grid projects –– close to sixty percent of Silver Spring “customers” were winners.
• American Electric Power (AEP) received $75 million for AEP Ohio gridSMARTSM Demonstration Project, announces earth2tech.com in August 2009. It should be noted here that Richard Sandor is on the AEP board. Sandor, Chairman and founder of the Chicago Climate Exchange, who is connected to President Obama and Al Gore, is another key “player” in this Climate Scan, which will be exposed later.
• Bluebonnet Electric Cooperative got $18.8 million for a general smart- grid build out in Texas as reported in August 2009 by earth2tech.com. Additionally, in November 2009 Austin’s Pecan Street Project won $10.4 million in federal stimulus money to create a smart-grid demonstration project, which includes Bluebonnet as part or their Technology Review and Advisory Committee.
• In October 2009 Florida Power & Electric was awarded $200 milllion for Energy Smart Florida –– posted by earth2tech.com.
• In April 2010 Pepco Holdings Inc. signed contracts for three ARRA grants totaling $168.1 million to advance smart-grid projects, reported by the Washington Business Journal. Additionally in April 2010, Secretary of Energy Steven Chu announced $100 million from the stimulus will go for Smart Grid Workforce Training and Development, of which Florida Power & Light got $5 million and Pepco got just over $4.3 million.
• In October 2009, “the U.S. Department of Energy announced that Modesto Irrigation District (MID) was one of only six California utilities selected to receive a $1.5 million federal stimulus grant to support MID’s efforts to install smart control equipment throughout its electric infrastructure” –– published in an Oracle Press Release.
• Oklahoma Gas and Electric Co. received a $130 million stimulus grant for a 771,000 smart meter deployment, as reported in October 2009 by GreenTechGrid.com.
• Sacramento Municipal Utility District got a $127.5 million stimulus grant for a comprehensive regional smart-grid system, announced in October 2009 by GreenTechGrid.com.
• According to an August 2009 article by earth2tech.com, Pacific Gas and Electric (PG&E) –– another Silver Spring customer –– “applied for $42.5 million government grant for home area networks in conjunction with the city of San Jose and Stanford University,” yet it is unclear whether or not they received it. However, in May 2010, the DOE awarded PG&E a $25 million stimulus grant to develop compressed air storage for electricity” –– writes the San Francisco Business Times.
But the “government bucks” don’t stop at Silver Spring Networks…
Ausra Inc.
Ausra Inc. –– a KPCP investment that “develops and deploys utility-scale solar technologies,” was acquired by AREVA Inc. in March 2010. Then in July 2010 “AREVA accepted the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) offer of a conditional commitment to issue a $2 billion loan guarantee to support construction of the Eagle Rock Enrichment Facility, AREVA’s $3 billion state-of-the-art gas centrifuge enrichment plant in Bonneville County, Idaho.”
Bloom Energy
Bloom Energy –– Kleiner Perkins is listed as a primary investor and John Doerr as a board member –– in February 2010 launched its Bloom Box. The real name is the “Bloom Energy Server” and is marketed as “a stand-alone electric generator that requires no connection to any centralized power generating plant and no coal-based or oil-based fuel to operate it” (translation: cheap, clean energy flows almost magically from a refrigerator-sized box). The Bloom Box debuted in a “big scoop” segment on 60 Minutes on February 21, 2010, followed with a star-studded (Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and Colin Powell) Bloom Energy Press Conference attended and filmed by TheAutoChannel.com. Marc J. Rauch Executive Vice President/Co-Publisher of The Auto Channel noted “our contact [at the National Renewable Energy Labs (NREL) in Colorado] had known of the Bloom technology and revealed that the government had actually provided a $5 million grant to the company during its development stage. There are also rumors (and news) of “an enormous government contract to order the Bloom Box” and Bloom Energy “is due for a verdict on their DOE stimulus funds shortly,” as reported by GreenTechMedia.com, February 19, 2010.
Harvest Power Inc.
Harvest Power Inc., backed by Kleiner Perkins, is basically a company that “turns trash into fertilizer and fuel,” and according to a June 2009 article by GreenEnergyNews.com and a City of San Jose Press Release, “GreenWaste Recovery would partner with Harvest Power Inc. on a project (if approved by the city council) known as the Zanker Road Biogas facility.” Mayor Chuck Reed said in a statement, “This project not only demonstrates San Jose’s leadership in the production of renewable energy but will help us meet the economic development, zero waste and energy goals of our city’s Green Vision,”
Evidently, the Green Vision is raking in big bucks from the Obama Green Stimulus, as reflected in their 2009 Annual Report –– “In 2009 over $50 million in federal and state grant money, including federal stimulus dollars were allocated or awarded towards projects that will advance Green Vision goals.” Additionally, “local companies received over $80 million in federal tax credits that will spur expansions and hiring in sectors such as renewable energy,” and as of May 2010, the City of San Jose –– Capitol of Silicon Valley –– “is estimated to receive nearly $108 million in Recovery Act funds.”
MiaSolé
MiaSolé Thin-film Solar, part of the KPCB Greentech Portfolio, with “more than 500 applications that were submitted for the tax credits,” in January 2010 MiaSole “received two Advanced Energy Manufacturing tax credits totaling $101.8 million from the Obama administration for the manufacture of low-cost thin-film cells and modules.”
RecycleBank
RecycleBank –– another Kleiner Perkins green investment –– works with municipalities and haulers to measure and reward residents for recycling. As reported by RecycleBank, “in April 2009 $2.8 billion were allocated to cities with 14 uses that include recycle projects.” It turns out that Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Houston, Texas; and Hartford, Connecticut were the first cities to “take advantage of stimulus funds and work with RecycleBank to improve their waste diversion rates.” Also, in August 2009, Chicago became the first Illinois city to partner with RecycleBank, then there are the cities in between, and recently in February 2010, Los Angeles became the largest city to partner with RecycleBank.
While it is obvious that the folks at Kleiner Perkins have strategically positioned their investments to profit from “green,” including the massive influx of taxpayer money, placing them ahead of the competition –– still others need government mandates and regulations to really make them fly. One company in particular is Hara Software, “a company that sells software to help businesses measure and reduce their greenhouse gas emissions,” where three KPCB partners sit on the Hara board. In a June 2009 article by Reuters –– Gore-Backed Hara Sees Profit From Low-carbon Economy –– Hara Chief Executive Amit Chatterjee, who in July 2009 was part of a group of “innovative energy leaders” that “advised Obama,” stated that [cap-and-trade] “will force companies to act, as opposed to seeing the business benefit of acting.” “The debate alone of ‘cap and trade’ is a driver for our product,” Chatterjee added.
Considering the magnitude of this Climate Scam –– its scope; cost and paybacks; “players” and agendas –– these findings may only scratch the surface. This Climate Scam goes beyond the billions of taxpayer dollars that Gore and Doerr, via Kleiner Perkins, have already unfairly snagged from the Obama Green Stimulus and huge DOE grants and loans. More disturbing is the fact that these “players” –– and others that will be exposed in Green Corruption parts two and three –– have direct ties to the Obama White House, strong influence over government policy, and are connected to the rest of those caught up in this scam, including the hard-core-left-wing radicals
Moreover, most of “the players” have helped create, shape, facilitate, lobby, testify, sell, and even if the planet blows up, will get their cap-and-trade, which despite reports that it’s dead in the Senate, will soon to be on the Obama agenda –– the real pot of gold at the end of the “climate rainbow.”
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The Greentech VC Influence Over Washington
By Katie Fehrenbacher Aug. 18, 2010, 8:28am PDT
here’ve been a couple articles in the past few weeks
pointing to President Obama as the “
clean tech investor in chief” and the presidential VC with bets on
clean energy. The real trend is that venture capitalists focusing on greentech seem to have had an
unprecedented influence on U.S. federal policy and allocations of the stimulus package.
When I attended the Department of Energy’s (DOE) first
ARPA-E conference (Advanced Research
Projects Agency-Energy) earlier this year in Washington D.C., I was struck by how many venture
capitalists were there. I shared a cab back to the airport with some familiar Silicon Valley faces, and
was told if your firm didn’t have a dedicated person in Washington — in some circles they call them
lobbyists — maneuvering grant and loan programs, you weren’t able to be competitive.
Just look at the figures from the stimulus package (which I am fully in support of): somewhere
between $50 billion and $80 billion into clean power and energy efficiency initiatives (
depending on how you slice it). The Obama administration has gone out of its way to seek the advice of
greenleaning
venture
capitalists
and
entrepreneurs
in
the
Valley
on
how
to
spend
that
colossal
amount
and
what
programs
would
be
the
most
affective.
Kleiner Perkins managing partner John Doerr is on President Obama’s
Economic Recovery Advisory
Board, and was able to convince Vice President Al Gore to join Kleiner, in addition to former
Secretary of State Colin Powell. Kleiner’s investments have had some successful government bids,
most notably the
$529 million loan to Kleiner portfolio company Fisker Automotive out of the DOE’s
highly competitive Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing, or ATVM, program. Fisker plans
to use the loan to build its factory and launch its electric vehicle in 2011.
If you remember, another winner of the $25 billion ATVM program was Tesla Motors, which, as
most of us know, was backed by venture capitalists from Draper Fisher Jurvetson, Technology
Partners, and Vantage Point among others.
I attended Khosla Venture’s LP meeting earlier this year where the firm
announced that former UK
Prime Minister Tony Blair would be joining the firm as Senior Advisor. Several of my journalism
peers were comparing the political influence Blair could wield to what Kleiner was doing with Gore.
The Obama administration appointed
former venture capitalist Jonathan Silver as its loan chief to lead
both the DOE’s loan guarantee and ATVM loan programs. About a third of the DOE’s loan guarantee
commitments went to venture-backed startups, including thin film solar maker Solyndra and solar
thermal company BrightSource.
I
wondered earlier this year if the loan guarantee for Solyndra wasn’t a mistake, given the company
has one of the highest manufacturing costs out of its competitors. The company withdrew its IPO
plans, citing poor market conditions. The Government Accountability Office also found that the loan
guarantee process treated some companies unfairly in their bids and risked “excluding some potential
applicants unnecessarily.”
There’s nothing inherently wrong with venture-backed companies getting government support, and
the energy sector needs even more federal funding to create innovation. I support Doerr and Bill
Gates’
calls for boosting federal government investing to $16 billion per year into energy innovation.
All I’m saying is that this level of influence should be watched.
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This is how VC’s and DOE Staff work together as reported by one of Tesla Motors senior executives:
In Role as Kingmaker, the Energy Department
Stifles Innovation
By Darryl Siry December 1, 2009 | 8:30 am
Of all of the Department of Energy programs intended to advance the green agenda while stimulating
the economy, the Advanced Technology Vehicle Manufacturing incentive to spur the development of
cleaner, greener automobiles is perhaps the most ambitious. But it has a downside.
The energy department has approved direct loans to Nissan, Ford, Tesla Motors and Fisker
Automotive totaling about $8 billion out of a budget of $25 billion. The magnitude of this program
dwarfs other DOE campaigns like the $2.4 billion given to battery and electric vehicle component
manufacturers and the $4 billion disbursed for “smart grid” projects.
To the recipients the support is a vital and welcome boost. But this massive government intervention
in private capital markets may have the unintended consequence of stifling innovation by reducing the
flow of private capital into ventures that are not anointed by the DOE.To understand this apparent contradiction, you have to look at the market from the perspective of
venture capitalists looking to deploy investors’ capital and startups looking to attract it.
Venture capitalists evaluate a company on the basis of whether they think it will succeed and generate
returns for their portfolios. While this evaluation is a function of many things, one key question is
how much more capital the company will need to get its product to market or a liquidity event so that
the venture capitalist can see a return. The more capital it needs, the more dilutive it will be to the
early investors.
In cleantech, and in particular alternative fuel vehicles, the capital requirements for companies
bringing a car to market in significant numbers can be extraordinarily high, reaching into the hundreds
of millions of dollars if the company wants to build its own manufacturing facilities.
To a venture capitalist, this capital requirement can be daunting. This is why government financing is
so attractive. In the case of the
advanced technology manufacturing loans, the DOE steps up for 80
percent of the total amount needed. Private sources fund the other 20 percent. This amounts to free
leverage for the venture capitalist’s bet, with no downside. Hedge funds historically used massive
leverage to generate outsized returns, but if the trade turns against them, that same leverage multiplies
their downside and can lead to financial ruin. In the case of the DOE loans or grants, the upside is
multiplied and the downside remains the same since the most the equity investor can lose is the
original investment.
The proposition is so irresistible that any reasonable person would prefer to back a company that has
received a DOE loan or grant than a company that has not. It is this distortion of the market for
private capital that will have a stifling effect on innovation, as private capital chases fewer deals and
companies that do not have government backing have a harder time attracting private capital. This
doesn’t mean deals won’t get done outside of the energy department’s umbrella, but it means fewer
deals will be done and at worse terms.
According to Earth2Tech, venture capitalist
John Doerr commented on this at the GreenBeat
conference earlier this month, saying “If we’d been able to foresee the crash of the market we
wouldn’t probably have launched a green initiative. Because these ventures really need capital. The
only way in which we were lucky I think is that the government stepped in, particularly the
Department of Energy. Led by this great administration that put in place these loan guarantees.”
Several sources within startup companies seeking DOE loans or grants have admitted that private
fundraising is complicated by investor expectations of government support. None would speak
publicly due to the sensitivity of the issue and the ongoing application process.
Aptera Motors has struggled this year to raise money to fund production of the Aptera 2e, its
innovative aerodynamic electric 3-wheeler, recently laying off 25 percent of its staff to focus on
pursuing a DOE loan. According to a source close to the company, “all of the engineers are working
on documentation for the DOE loan. Not on the vehicle itself.” Another highly placed source at
Aptera told Wired.com many potential investors wanted to see
approval of the DOE loan before
committing to invest.
Startup companies that enjoy DOE support, most notably
Tesla Motors and Fisker Automotive, have
an extraordinary advantage over potential competitors since they have secured access to capital on
very cheap terms. The magnitude of this advantage puts the DOE in the role of kingmaker with the
power to vault a small startup with no product on the market -– as is the case with Fisker — into a
potential global player on the back of government financial support.As a result, the vibrant and competitive market for ideas chasing venture capital that has been the
engine of innovation for decades in the United States is being subordinated to the judgments and
political inclinations of a government bureaucracy that has never before wielded such market power.
A potential solution to this problem may seem counter-intuitive. The best way to avoid market
distortion would be for the DOE to cast the net more broadly and provide loans and grants to a larger
number of companies — which ironically means being less selective. Subject to the existing equity
matching requirement, this would allow the private markets to function more effectively in funding a
broader range of companies and driving more innovation. Several innovative companies with great
potential have been in the DOE pipeline for many months. Perhaps it is time for the DOE to stop
playing favorites and start spreading the love.
Wired.com contacted the Department of Energy for comment but did not receive a reply.
Disclosure: Darryl Siry was the chief marketing officer of Tesla Motors from December 2006 until
December 2008 and is a special advisor to Coda Automotive, which has not sought an Advanced
Technology Vehicle Manufacturing loan.
Photo: Ford Motor Co. Energy Secretary Steven Chu addresses Ford employees on June 23, 2009,
after announcing the automaker will receive a $5.9 billion loan.
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http://www.growvc.com/blog/2010/09/venture-capital-conspiracy-theory-in-the-free-world/
Venture Capital Conspiracy Theory In The Free World
by: neil
Wow! Really? No Way! Wow!….this was my reaction to the ‘revelation’ of a post by Michael Arrington’s “So a Blogger Walks Into A Bar…”
This true account of what happens when Tech Crunch’s Mike Arrington walks into a Silicon Valley bar has all the trappings of a gangster movie. For starters, the bar, a group of powerful early stage investors meeting, colluding, plotting against any competition, an agenda on how to control the industry and monopolize and this is NOT a movie! Here is an extract of Mike’s account:
I’ve never seen a more guilty looking group of people. But that alone isn’t that big of a deal. Lively conversations often die quickly when I arrive, and I’ve learned not to take it personally. But I did sniff around a little afterwards, and have spoken to three people who were at that meeting. And that’s where things got interesting.
This group of investors, which together account for nearly 100% of early stage startup deals in Silicon Valley, have been meeting regularly to compare notes. Early on it was mostly to complain about a variety of things. But the conversation has evolved to the point where these super angels are actually colluding (and I don’t use that word lightly) to solve a number of problems, say multiple sources who are part of the group and were at the dinner.
Is there room for price fixing, total control and a greed based structure in the free market world? Is this really best for startups? For entrepreneurs? For Silicon Valley which is a renowned culture known for promoting innovation and talent in startups?
This entire scenario is wrong on so many different levels but knowing this is what can happen within closed doors here are some changes critical to a culture which reflects the values of a entrepreneurial community and a better future for startups:
1. We need transparency. This is very evident from what we’ve just witnessed.
2. Do things in the open and on the record. Why can’t investors, entrepreneurs and other stakeholders work in a transparent environment online where there is automatic accountability and governance through open interactions and a community that can see what’s going on?
3. The system has to benefit all parties involved. Entrepreneurs, investors and others. It needs to be fair and favor innovation. Bring up the best. Mystique, lack of transparency, complex rules are not benefit of anything but greed
4. There is no room for protectionism in a free market. We don’t need early stage capital markets to be exclusive to a select few who control everything. We need to make it more inclusive and involve as many as possible. The more support, the more investors, more and better companies will be born.
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http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/23/ron-conway-angel-email/
Ron Conway Drops A Nuclear Bomb On The Super Angels [Email]
Mg Siegler
Thursday, September 23rd, 2010
2 Comments
As we just stated in our previous post, there was clearly an email sent by angel investor Ron Conway to a group of super angels who were likely involved in the Bin 38 “AngelGate” meeting that Mike stumbled into a couple days ago. We’ve now received a copy of the email that Conway sent from an anonymous tipster. And we’ve confirmed it is authentic from one of the recipients.
It’s a bombshell. No, it’s a nuclear bomb. It speaks for itself. Read it below.
Subject: Super Angels Gathering
I want to share my views on the two gatherings you had in June and this week and what they represent in my opinion.
So that I would not be influenced by any outside inputs I am writing this without sharing my thoughts with anyone including David Lee and the other SV Angel Partners.
I want to clarify once and for all my total disagreement with your values and motives for being investors.
I have stated consistently for year that I invest because I love helping entrepenuers and watching them learn and succeed.
I am honored that entrepenuers share their crystal ball views of the future of innovation and technology with us and respect the guts it takes to start a company.
At SV Angel we try to reciprocate by adding value any way we can.
I think that actions speak louder than words and SV Angel has always been a friend of entrepenuers and we focus our business to help entrepenuers achieve success.
The world of startups would be a better place if you spent less time complaining about deal structures, terms, vc’s, and valuations etc and the cars you drive, and just helped entrepenuers build their companies.
The Free Enterprise system is very efficient …..why not let the marketplace demands decide on these issues, its worked for many many years. These startups are binary …they succeed or fail so why waste time on deal structures, terms, vc’s, and valuations etc and just help entrepenuers build their companies.
In my opinion your motives are driven by self serving factors around ego satisfaction and “making a buck”.
My motives and values are very different.
They are so different I want to be up front with you and recognize this and disengage from any involvement with you. I will not be a hypocrite.
I am tired of seeing you and engaging in idle chit chat and not sharing my true feelings.
I think you have a different value set and lets agree to disagree and not have to even engage in any idle chit chat or discussion of any sort….ever.
Furhermore, I regret David Lee was involved in the gatherings. I am sure he does too.
We talked about the first dinner and I encouraged him to write the email above and withdraw….I know he was uncomfortable with both gatherings….where no one was there to speak up for the interests of the entrepenuers.
By now you are rolling your eyes and saying “Ron’s a ___________(fill in the blank) ….and who is he to pass judgement…..
We are all entitled to our opinions.
I am just being honest and transparent….the way most of the entrepenuers I invest are…
I wish the Angel community could have the same integrity and values of the entrepenuer community, but unfortunately I now believe that is hopeless and your actions prove that.
What do you think the entrepenuers you have funded are thinking right now.
This is despicable and embarrassing for the tech community in my opinion.
Can you learn from this ?
Please keep this confidential even though I know that will be hard since two of you let your egos take over and show Arrington how important you are by telling him you were headed to a “secret” angel gathering.
Dave McCLure…pls try not to blog about this and cause silicon valley more embarrassment with your unprofessional classless writings
Note: I did not include those who were at the gatherings who I don’t know well enough to form an opinion around their motives or values.
Tags: angelgate, Ron Conway
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Mnaficy> David Hornik•2 years ago−
David,
Sorry to disagree, but from an entrepreneur's perspective collusion is alive and well among VCs. If you're ever interested, I can give you the names of VCs who colluded to try to bring down the valuation of my first company. Several witnesses to this event, including a very well known lawyer in the valley.
-- Mariam Naficy, CEO & Founder, Minted.com
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From Wikipedia: Collusion> Bruno Morency•2 years ago−
Collusion is an agreement between two or more persons, sometimes illegal and therefore secretive, to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading, or defrauding others of their legal rights, or to obtain an objective forbidden by law typically by defrauding or gaining an unfair advantage.[citation needed] It is an agreement among firms to divide the market, set prices, or limit production.[1] It can involve "wage fixing, kickbacks, or misrepresenting the independence of the relationship between the colluding parties".[2] In legal terms, all acts effected by collusion are considered void.[
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[email protected]> Dave McClure•a month ago−
I have a company that could not get any funding and we have been hurt exactly by such nepotistic and jerk style actions. The valley is now the NEW VERSAILLES of crony investment INCEST where you get the money most likley if you have buddies in such f***** circles. Otherwise, they will invest in ANY CRAP without merit as long as they have a BUDDY there. This is DETRIMENTAL to innovation and fair level plane for EVERYONE and all they do is CROSS deal and NOT invest in the best company according to the tech/ideas merits. collusion, nepotistic crony based intellectual incest. This SUCKS. I could give tangible examples where 2 SAME companies get once 8million(just cos crony buddies despite doing inferior job) and another gets nothing despite doing superb job.
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http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/26/angelgate-chris-sacca-responds-to-ron-conway/
AngelGate: Chris Sacca Responds To Ron Conway
Michael Arrington
Sunday, September 26th, 2010
As I said the other day, there would be more private emails getting published. This one is from Chris Sacca, a prominent “super angel” who was not at the meeting I stumbled into but was at a previous meeting. He wrote a response to the Ron Conway email. It’s worth pointing out that this email is time stamped a good half hour before our story broke, meaning he wrote it thinking it would all still stay private.
This is also the first leaked email we’ve received that actually includes names in the header of some of the people who are involved in this mess. Presumably these were the people Ron Conway emailed, but the header was stripped out of that email when we received it. Like the Ron Conway email, we have separately confirmed this email is authentic, although Sacca will not comment on it.
I’ve removed one sentence from the email that was highly sensitive. Nothing that material to the overall message, but it was very personal and not appropriate to print publicly.
The email:
From: Christopher Sacca
Date: Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: Super Angels Gathering
To: Ron Conway
Cc: Josh Kopelman, Steve Anderson, Jeff Clavier, Mike Maples, Dave McClure, David Lee
Ron,
I agree with you that we all owe it to each other to be candid.
In that spirit, I will say that I will always be grateful for the opportunities you have given me in this business. You have shared deals with me, introduced me to colleagues, and invited me to events for years. Your philanthropy knows no bounds and has definitely inspired my work with charity:water and Livestrong. In fact, I have great respect for how you took my introducing you to will.i.am as an opportunity to become the single most important benefactor to his foundation. As I wrote last year before the Crunchies when I endorsed you for Angel of the Year:
I mention Ron last only because this one gets a little emotional for me. It goes without saying, his prolific reach is legendary. He is the Zelig of the startup world in that there isn’t a liquidity event in our industry in which he isn’t involved and a closing dinner to which he isn’t invited. Of course, he isn’t just invited as an investor, but usually as the guy who made the introduction, helped negotiate the terms, and saved it from the brink of disaster along the way. It gets emotional for me because no one in this business has been more generous, more selfless, or more caring with me. We all learn from Ron, and none of us could be here without him. I will never understand how he covers so much ground and how he manages to be so responsive and perform so much service for others. When you are with Ron, you know he will go to any length to help you. When guys with his success might otherwise take time to rest, Ron then redoubles his efforts for his charitable causes, not just giving money, but raising funds and awareness and doing hard work on non-profit boards. I feel lucky to know Ron and to have the chance to work with him virtually every day as I am sure many of you do too.
That said, I am having a hard time resolving the person I quite literally grew up with in this business, with the person who sent the email to which I am replying. Your anger and personal accusations hurt, and it is clear they are intended to.
I wasn’t in town for the second meeting, but I went to the first dinner. I wish you would’ve been there. Not only would your input have been valuable, but if you had attended, you would have seen firsthand these topics of discussion:
1) Standard docs to make financings cheaper for startups. The group talked about who would be willing to pitch in our own money and time to help draft a set of financing documents that would allow for priced rounds to cost the same as convertible notes. As you know, it usually costs 10-15 thousand dollars more to sell stock than issue a note. Entrepreneurs would directly benefit from that work by lower costs and less bullshit legal process to get a financing done. In fact, it is exactly what YCombinator did in building a model convertible note. I am sure you agree that would be a good thing for founders everywhere if we were able to publish docs like this to the public to be used as open source.
2) Pro-rata rights. At the first dinner, we heard, from guys who have been doing this for a long time, about the importance of securing pro-rata rights for future rounds. This would allow them to continue to invest alongside other investors at the new, higher, market price in future rounds. I have no doubt you would agree that entrepreneurs also benefit from having their early investors continue to stay involved and demonstrate their renewed commitment to the company. I know you would also love to be able to continue to invest in companies beyond their seed round, and you also know this is only ever helpful to your founders.
3) The futility of VCs blocking company sales. We also discussed how pointless it was for VCs to put clauses in deals that would prevent companies from selling and how the guys in the room had never invoked such a clause because doing so would create misalignment with their founders. We identified that as one way in which many traditional VCs were just missing the boat as to how to work with founders as peers and collaborators and not put them on the opposite side of the table. Each of us felt better knowing we weren’t alone in pushing back on this term that very directly harms founders.
4) Earliest stage founder cash-outs. Among efforts from others, we talked about my recent projects to get very early stage founders some liquidity. Traditional VCs have rarely been inclined to give founders any ability to cash out claiming it makes them less “hungry”. As someone who, just five years ago, had net worth of exactly zero dollars, I remember the difference between being “panicked” and “hungry”. As I have invested in more and more companies, I have learned that many founders would benefit dramatically from even the smallest amounts of cash (compared to the overall deal size). I have worked hard to get my founders as little as $25,000 to pay off credit cards and student loans. Or, in a small deal that closed this week, I was able to get a founder the money so he can pay for his wedding and not have to worry about taking on debt. I, and the other investors in this group who do the same thing, feel good about helping our founders in this way.
I hope you can really pause to consider who is on this list you mailed, as well as the others in the room you didn’t, and the way they do business. All of us have considered you a mentor along the way, and you have recognized that by collaboration with each of us. Inspired by your service, we have seen each of our firms evolve to continually try to always put founders first. Guys like Kopelman are so painfully pro-entrepreneur, and so service-oriented to the community of founders, one topic of discussion at our dinner was understanding all of the different founder perks on which he has spent his fund’s money. From the venture concierge and his hiring services, to his CRM software and CEO summits, I haven’t seen anyone add as much value to founders as First Round. I wish you could have been there to experience firsthand the discussion about how the rest of us could emulate more and more of that model. And, like typical Josh, he was certainly willing to teach us his best practices. I was so blown away, that I actually asked FR to lead a deal I sourced recently because I knew they could serve the company better than I could.
I know that each of the guys on this list coaches entrepreneurs they aren’t even invested with and continue to take time to help the entire startup ecosystem. They work to get founders access to early betas that they know will help. They call in favors to get costs down. They spend political capital to bring in the best hires and they lose sleep brainstorming how to solve problems. Each of the guys here takes phone calls and sends emails at all hours of the day and night. Everyone here hustles. Frankly, I find it hard to keep up with them, just like I can’t keep up with you.
I told you last night that I think some of this issue is worth discussing, even on stage. But, this message, and the ferocity and ad hominem attacks that you include, hurt. Both what you wrote to me before (calling this group “dirtbags”) and in this message above. I am not sure why it needed to get personal. In sharp contrast to your stereotyping about what you say is obsession with talking about cars, I actually drive a piece of shit truck with 115k miles, despite having been frequently encouraged to visit Franz to buy a Mercedes. I fly coach and I stay on friends’ couches in NYC and LA, not out of Signature Aviation and at the Peninsula. That said, though I haven’t yet made a buck, I sincerely hope I will. As I post clearly on my website:
“We don’t think of ourselves as money managers. That isn’t to say we aren’t tireless and competitive. In fact, we are ruthless negotiators, aggressive businesspeople, and have no allergy to disproportionately large returns. However, frankly, capital just isn’t that important to the early triumph of a company anymore.”
My founders will tell you, as will the founders of everyone listed here, that I/we sweat with these guys just like you do, bleed with them just like you do, and try as hard as we can to put their interests first. My founders stay at my house for team retreats. In fact, I just bought an entirely new place for them to be able to come to the woods, exercise, relax, focus, unwind, and bond with each other. That came out of my pocket. They get overweight? I buy them a mountain bike. They look skinny? I pick up groceries. Just talk to them and I am sure you will see that, though each of us investors adds value to our founders’ lives in different ways, everyone on this thread adds value, Ron. Everyone. To claim that SV Angel has a monopoly on adding value is disingenuous.
When I started angel investing, my first deal was paid for with a credit card check. It was a dumb idea, but I was so drawn to the notion that I could be helpful to the team and I relished the chance to be building something again. You and I were in that deal together and we both made out pretty well. As you know, at Google, I didn’t get rich by Silicon Valley standards. I left there worth less than a million dollars. I started doing angel investing in part because you and others like Coach Campbell encouraged me to and you knew I would be good at it. I wrote checks to companies when it was financially irresponsible for me to do so, then I went in there and busted my ass to make those things succeed. My days have been driven by a passion that makes it impossible for me to avoid the opportunity to help. Right now, 94% of my net worth is tied up in startups and I [REMOVED BY TECHCRUNCH]. I have every shred of my money alongside my founders, often buying their same common stock. No one but an obsessive idiot would ever allocate their money that way. But, I love what I do. And I know that goes for everyone on this list.
Kopelman bids his kids farewell every few weeks to fly the redeye here and back to be with his companies. I have watched Maples, Clavier, and Steve all drop what they are doing to be supremely helpful to their founders and to their peers. Each of them shares opportunities and leverages their network to try to offer the best possible service to their companies’ teams. Sure, McClure is loud and swears like a drunken sailor, but he takes bullets for his guys, and his service to entrepreneurs through Geeks on a Plane and his Startup 2 Startup dinners series is unparalleled. His followings among founders make that clear. They love and respect him, no matter how you may judge his writing style. They know they have an ally in Dave.
I have seen guys on this list, and in the larger group of all dinner attendees, repeatedly back off terms or convince other investors to take haircuts alongside them so deals can get done. Ask any single one of the companies who has met with me and they’ll tell you that I always negotiate against myself. To a fault. I have given back shares to make room for hiring and I have talked other angels into waiving any fiduciary arguments so our teams could stretch a small deal farther. Everyone here has done that knowing we will get to work with those entrepreneurs again in better times.
This group of guys could all take a much easier path if they were just out to make a buck. Everyone here could raise megafunds, bilk them for fees, jam too much money into deals and repeat that process all over again just mooching off the system. Instead, the folks you listed are all your fellow pioneers in a new way of doing business, a way that admits the structural change the industry has undergone. This is a different era, and each of these guys knows that means greater accountability than ever before.
I described on my Lowercase site characteristics that I think apply to everyone on this thread, and especially you, Ron:
We dive in to work with teams that obsess over user experiences, customer happiness, and that, to quote Paul Graham, “make something people want.” Along with relatively small amounts of money, we give them the time, attention, and the empathy that catalyze winning outcomes for all involved. Rolling up our sleeves, we help design front pages, invent new services, prioritize product features, negotiate partnerships, and deal with the everyday professional and personal challenges of startup life. We are grateful for the companies who have chosen us, and feel lucky for the chance to collaborate with such brilliant minds. The dealflow that comes to us is flattering, and we are beyond thankful for the other individuals and firms with whom we partner and learn from along the way.
It makes me sad to hear you don’t think that is actually the case, because I actually don’t doubt for a second that the guys on this list all exceed the standard above. You know they do. You have worked alongside them for years. You have broken bread with them. You know who these people are and you know what their values are. You have referred deals to all of them because you know the positive impact they have on this industry. Now you are willing to throw that away over second-hand accounts of what transpired at a dinner you didn’t attend. I think you owe this group more than that. I also think you owe the press and the founders who are reading the accounts you have prompted more than that.
Ron, we live in the age of Twitter. If we ever fucked an entrepreneur, or if an entrepreneur even hinted we had fucked them, it would be broadcast immediately and the resulting blog posts would be permanently attached to a search on our names. Founders have never been better educated or more empowered than they are today. We aren’t giving them money; they are giving us the right to invest in their companies. Our founders hire us and they do so after consulting a rich network of datapoints confirming whether we are or are not helpful. Slackers don’t get deal flow. Jerks don’t get deal flow. Poseurs get left aside. Abuse the system once and you are tattooed with shame.
Entrepreneurs outnumber us and they talk more than we do. The good opportunities are more than any of us can handle. There are legions of investors at the gates hucking checks at today’s founders. The only possible way any of us can stay in business is by serving. If we are not demonstrably and materially helpful to entrepreneurs, we are dead.
Pausing now to look back and re-read what you wrote, it just makes me sad and your rush to judgment of people you called your friends is disappointing. All of this goodwill burned with guys you have loved. All of this time spent on an issue when we should be helping our companies. (I am writing to you when I should be calling a founder to help him weigh the demands of his VCs and a potential acquirer.) All of this anger directed at people with whom you didn’t even have a discussion to understand what was or wasn’t going on. I wish you had been at those dinners. First, I am sure you would have had helpful input. But, more importantly,you would have instead seen your peers working, as they have always done, to cut through the bullshit in this industry and continue to restore the purity and honor a decade of misaligned interests has left here.
I hope you will find some time over the next couple of days to chew on all this, some time to reflect on who we all are and what we all do. I hope you will spend a little time with our founders and ask them how they feel about working with all of us. I hope you will work to clear the air about what did or didn’t happen. You have such an important voice. But, with that voice comes the responsibility to investigate, know, and share the whole truth.
All told, I know that the gratitude that this group has for your work in this business can’t be undone with one vitriolic email. So, I am optimistic that after you have a chance to chat with each of us, you will remember the passion and selflessness that underpin the work all of us do. While I deeply believe none of us could have gotten here without you, I also ask that you respect that we have all worked our asses off to be here. We all care, we all help, and we all serve. We all learned much of that from you.
I hope in time that will be clear once again and we can all get back to helping our founders and each other.
Thank you,
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The next generation bends over
Jason Fried wrote this on Sep 18 2009/ 186 comments
Mint’s sale to Intuit really pissed me off.
Why should I care? Because I think it’s indicative of a VC-induced cancer that’s infecting our industry and killing off the next generation. I don’t know the full backstory, but I’d bet this sale was encouraged by a Mint investor.
Here’s a fresh new company that was gunning for an aging incumbent. And not only gunning, but gaining. They had a great product, great design, and great potential. They were growing rapidly and figured out the revenue game. They were on their way to redefining an industry — one that was left for dead by the current custodians.
They were everything their main competitor, Intuit, was not. While Mint was inventing, Intuit was out of it. People used Quickbooks/Quicken out of habit and legacy. People used Mint because they loved it. Intuit was disgruntled, Mint was disruptive.
But here’s what happened: Intuit, last decade’s leader in personal finance, just became the next decade’s leader in personal finance. Mint had their number, but they sold it for $170 million. A big payday for sure, and if that was their two-year goal then they nailed it, but I can’t believe that was the point behind Mint. It had too much potential.
Mint was a key leader of the next generation of game changers. And now it’s property of Intuit — the poster-child for the last generation. What a loss. Is that the best the next generation can do? Become part of the old generation? How about kicking the shit out of the old guys? What ever happened to that?
As more great new companies are absorbed into big old companies, a whole new generation of change is lost. They can issue press releases saying how excited they are to be able to bring their product to a whole new world of customers, and how their new suitor will bring enormous resources to bear, but we know that’s usually not really what happens. Development slows, products stall, the staff that built the great stuff leaves, and mediocrity creeps in. Not always, but usually.
Thomas Jefferson said “Periodic revolution, ‘at least once every 20 years,’ was ‘a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.’” That may be even truer for business. We need new blood, new companies, new methods, new ideas, new applications, and new leaders to regenerate stale industries. The old must be plowed under by the new.
But today it seems like the old is doing the plowing. Let’s stop that. Let’s build great companies that are here to fight, here to win, and here to stay until the next generation after us comes along and kicks all our asses. And again and again and again. That’s how better happens.
Jason Fried wrote this on Sep 18 2009 There are 186 comments.
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Jason Fried wrote this on Sep 18 2009/ 186 comments
Mint’s sale to Intuit really pissed me off.
Why should I care? Because I think it’s indicative of a VC-induced cancer that’s infecting our industry and killing off the next generation. I don’t know the full backstory, but I’d bet this sale was encouraged by a Mint investor.
Here’s a fresh new company that was gunning for an aging incumbent. And not only gunning, but gaining. They had a great product, great design, and great potential. They were growing rapidly and figured out the revenue game. They were on their way to redefining an industry — one that was left for dead by the current custodians.
They were everything their main competitor, Intuit, was not. While Mint was inventing, Intuit was out of it. People used Quickbooks/Quicken out of habit and legacy. People used Mint because they loved it. Intuit was disgruntled, Mint was disruptive.
But here’s what happened: Intuit, last decade’s leader in personal finance, just became the next decade’s leader in personal finance. Mint had their number, but they sold it for $170 million. A big payday for sure, and if that was their two-year goal then they nailed it, but I can’t believe that was the point behind Mint. It had too much potential.
Mint was a key leader of the next generation of game changers. And now it’s property of Intuit — the poster-child for the last generation. What a loss. Is that the best the next generation can do? Become part of the old generation? How about kicking the shit out of the old guys? What ever happened to that?
As more great new companies are absorbed into big old companies, a whole new generation of change is lost. They can issue press releases saying how excited they are to be able to bring their product to a whole new world of customers, and how their new suitor will bring enormous resources to bear, but we know that’s usually not really what happens. Development slows, products stall, the staff that built the great stuff leaves, and mediocrity creeps in. Not always, but usually.
Thomas Jefferson said “Periodic revolution, ‘at least once every 20 years,’ was ‘a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.’” That may be even truer for business. We need new blood, new companies, new methods, new ideas, new applications, and new leaders to regenerate stale industries. The old must be plowed under by the new.
But today it seems like the old is doing the plowing. Let’s stop that. Let’s build great companies that are here to fight, here to win, and here to stay until the next generation after us comes along and kicks all our asses. And again and again and again. That’s how better happens.
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FEDERAL GOVT. RELEASES VIDEO AND REPORT PROVING DEADLY THREAT OF LITHIUM ION BATTERIES IN TESLA’S AND AIRLINERS. MAY HAVE BROUGHT DOWN FLIGHT MH370. DEADLY EXPLOSIONS. - TESLA ELECTRIC CARS HAVE EVEN MORE BATTERIES PACKED INTO THEM THAN THE 5000 BATTERIES TESTED IN THE DEADLY FEDERAL VIDEO. TESLA’S AND FISKERS HAVE ALREADY CAUSED TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN FIRE DAMAGES AND EXPLOSIONS. – MALAYSIAN AIRLINES…
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WHITE HOUSE STAFF, TESLA MOTORS, GOLDMAN SACHS AND AN ORGANIZED CRIME SCHEME! WHITE HOUSE STAFF, TESLA MOTORS, GOLDMAN SACHS AND AN ORGANIZED CRIME SCHEME! Investigators say that, political operatives David Plouffe, Rahm Emanual, Steven Rattner, Bill Daly, David Axelrod and Robert Gibbs arranged with Silicon Valley investors to take over the lithium…
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Google charged with “steering” Tesla articles to favored searches Per this link on Muckety: http://news.muckety.com/2013/05/16/tesla-announces-450m-stock-sale/42801#comment-5034721 The researched chart by Muckety reveals the secret connections to the control, and manipulation, of consumer perceptions, federal public policy and law-making. If proven, this subjects both Tesla and Google to SEC fraud charges.…
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Reddit Roasts Tesla There are many Reddit Posters who bring the pain on Tesla but this one goes full down: “Just saw this: “Tesla caught pumping stock with fake orders. Corporate email busts Tesla scam. Is this a credible product? Tesla Motors is…
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Newly discovered documents show Tesla failed all reviews and was only funded because White House staff ordered DOE to fund in order to compensate Tesla investors for campaign contributions. Newly discovered documents show Tesla failed all reviews and was only funded because White House staff ordered DOE to fund in order to compensate Tesla investors for campaign contributions. New discovered documents show that, at the time Tesla applied for…
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Tesla’s financial advisors: Deloitte charged in Money Laundering Scheme Tesla’s financial advisors: Deloitte charged in Money Laundering Scheme NY State top legal bulldog Benjamin M. Lawsky has charged and fined Deloitte tens of millions of dollars for their involvement in Money Laundering Schemes. Deloitte was the financial advisor for…
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Even FORBES admits Tesla is a Scam! By Patrick Michaels, FORBES MAGAZINE I write about the interface of public science and public policy If Tesla Would Stop Selling Cars, We’d All Save Some Money First of all, let’s stipulate that the Tesla model S is a pretty…
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CITIZEN GROUPS ISSUE STERN WARNING TO ELON MUSK. SAY “CRIMINAL CHARGES” TO BE FILED. TESLA STORES TO BE PICKETED! CITIZEN GROUPS ISSUE STERN WARNING TO ELON MUSK. SAY “CRIMINAL CHARGES” TO BE FILED. TESLA STORES TO BE PICKETED! You might have seen these announcements on the internet from a combined group of consumer action committees: “ELON MUSK: You Are…
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Tesla “Battery Swap” a smoke-screen to get rid of exploding battery pack Tesla has been scrambling to address the issues that killed Fisker, namely, that their batteries can explode and burn you, your kids and your house up in a big nasty fireball. SEE: Tesla Issues TESLA Tesla Battery Tesla Battery Danger…
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Friend of Tesla staffer killed in plane crash releases insider notes Friend of Tesla staffer killed in plane crash releases insider notes to press that deceased Tesla worker was compiling for book. The associate has been releasing parts of the book to selected press but confirms that a full book deal…
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ANOTHER TESLA DEUTSCHE BANK SENIOR EXECUTIVE COMMITS “SUICIDE”. CLEANTECH SCAM BANKERS DROPPING LIKE FLIES! Another Deutsche Banker And Former SEC Enforcement Attorney Commits Suicide MANY DEATHS in This Thing Multiple European Bankers who greased the skids for Tesla’s NO REVIEW,NO ACTUAL SAFETY INVESTIGATION FAKE CERTIFICATION and STOCK PUMPING, NOW DEAD Submitted by Tyler Durden…
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Did Tesla really pay back their loan? NOT ACTUALLY.. Taxpayers are STILL paying for it By Paul Czonga Investors Bluesheet Did Tesla really pay back their loan? Not actually! Through a series of tricky Wall Street/Crooked Bank paper shuffling, obscure, warrant-sliding, shady smooth talking dances Tesla is now claiming that it has “paid back the…
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Tesla Lied About Profits: Business Insider Sorry, But Tesla’s Only Profitable Because Of Your Tax Dollars Craig Pirrong Yesterday 1:37 AM Electric vehicle manufacturer Tesla’s stock has rocketed up after the company reported positive earnings and operating cash flow for the first quarter. The stock had…
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Could the charges that Tesla Motors is an “Organized Crime Operation” actually be true? Journalists examine the charges: – LINK TO THIS PAGE: http://www.thenewsdaily.org/?p=10939 – – Published federal GAO reports and Senate Ethics committee reports seem to indicate so. Tips from FBI, DOJ, Secret Service and Treasury investigators, re: ongoing investigations, seem to also…
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Beware! Tesla is a bubble just waiting to burst Beware! Tesla is a bubble just waiting to burst By Barry Randall Published May 30, 2013 Covestor By Barry Randall Congratulations to Tesla (TSLA) shareholders for the recent, astounding gains in the company’s stock. In spite of (or because of)…
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Senator Charles , Consumers Union and other groups call for investigation of exploding lithium ion batteries. Same batteries as used in Tesla and Fisker. Senator Charles Schumer, The Consumers Union, and a variety of consumer groups call for lithium ion investigation Senator Charles Schumer, The Consumers Union, and a variety of consumer groups across the nation, today, have called for an investigation of lithium…
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TESLA PR Manipulation BS!- Some of the more outstanding lies… TESLA PR Manipulation BS!- Some of the more outstanding lies… – Musk misrepresents status of Tesla in DOE application. – Tesla says “Germany passed Tesla as safe” after NO credible safety study conducted by Germany, while trying to hide fact…
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THE DEADLY TOXIC SECRET OF THE TESLA GIGAFACTORY: Page 2 Why is such a dangerous thing being promoted with your tax dollars while those same tax dollars are being used to cover up these dangers? Let’s discuss… A Collaborative Crime Book This is a “LIVE” document. It will…
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THE DEADLY TOXIC SECRET OF THE TESLA GIGAFACTORY: Page 1 THE PUBLIC IS BEING LIED TO… – Harry Reid: Department of Energy “KickBack King” got more crony US tax dollars in his investment portfolio than any other Senator besides Feinstein. – Nevada Residents horrified by toxins danger, and existing charges…
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